Is Logic a fraud?

[Shiva]

So I just got in a discussion with a Logic fan about how Logic doesn't give off a street vibe at all, despite the fact that he claims to. I don't think all rappers have to give off street vibes, but I feel like a huge part of Logic's appeal for his fanbase (which from what I can tell, is mostly white kids on the internet) is the fact that he looks very friendly and safe, but he also claims to have grown up in the projects, and he tries to talk about all this drug shyt and gang shyt and he sells it to middle America with a smile.

As someone who grew up somewhere in between middle class and the street, I don't claim to be from the hardest hood or anything cause I'm not, but between 5 and 16, I grew up in a town where it was a legitimate concern that if I stepped out of the house or I was out with my friends, there was a chance that we could get robbed or jumped, and we'd have to be ready to fight at any time. Sometimes we did that shyt too. And I don't get that vibe from Logic at all.

He seems like a safe middle class kid who might have had some family issues growing up, but never been in a serious fight, never had a gun or knife pointed at him, never had to deal with serious police harassment or be afraid of facing jail time, especially because he could pass as white.

I could go on, and maybe pick apart some of his actual lyrics, but I want to hear other people's opinions on this before diving in further.

 

[Dushane Hill]

Too many people get caught up in the whole "is this nikka really from the streets?" thing.

 

[Pinyapplesuckas]

*Nas voice* Look at his face

 

[Shiva]

*Nas voice* Look at his face

Yeah, when I look at his eyes, I don't see any of that shyt at all. RZA has this one line, "You can see the weakness of a man right through his iris," and the one time I watched an interview with this kid, all I heard and saw was straight softness. I don't have a problem with that, but when you try to fake it and sell it as a commodity, that's the issue.

I'm aware that dudes like Nas used to just watch that shyt from the project windows without necessarily getting in it heavy, and then they translated that to their music, but you can still see the pain, feel the pain, the soul in their music. Ross also gets a tentative pass because there's basically an understanding that he doesn't take himself seriously and he frames it as more of a cinematic experience than some kind of a lyrical documentary, but even so, you can still hear the hunger in his voice.

When I listen to a Logic track, all I hear is soulless recycling of themes he probably heard from other rappers.

 

[brother walt]

He not a fraud to cacs because cacs use to stealing from us View media item 5835

 

[kingdizzy01]

fraud/plant, someone owed someone a favor, thats how we get these no name people that suddenly blow up.

 

[Prince.Skeletor]

Drake fake too

 

[Nobodyknows]

Drake fake too

Bu bu bu Drake started from the bottom

 

[Shiva]

Bu bu bu Drake started from the bottom

Nah that kid grew up savage, Toronto streets kept him hungry as fukk





Real talk, as someone who enjoyed Take Care, all my appreciation for Drake went out the window as soon as that song dropped. He shoulda just stuck to talking about girls and stuff and stayed in that lane imo, that seemed authentic enough.

No ghostwriter would've been insecure enough to talk all the shyt he talked about, but that was part of the appeal, cause everyone goes through some shyt like that when growing up and figuring out relationships I feel like. Now he's just wack.

 

[The_King_of_Everything]

He's just garbage

 

[NvrCMyNut]

I seen a video blog of him with dad & was lame as hell. He was talkin about his dad's crack addiction infront of him and im like dude wtf? why would you do that? it does seem that he tries too hard to prove that he came from the 'bottom' and tries to use that as his marketing gimmick. The song you posted feels like a classic case of rapping about another rappers life, dude heard GKMC and tried to replicate it with none of the experiences.

 

[roxxthe96er]

Hes always quick to talk about how his brothers are darker than him an heavy in the streets lol... Iono if he's certified but it does come off a lil funny you right... I'm a middle class cac tho I can't say much about the boy,, plus his bars pretty nice.

 

[Mason83]

He grew up 15 minutes from where I live in Germantown, MD. A place called "west deer park" in Gaithersburg MD. It is kind of a shady area with some small local Gangs but it is NOT the hood

 

[Rayzah]

He grew up 15 minutes from where I live in Germantown, MD. A place called "west deer park" in Gaithersburg MD. It is kind of a shady area with some small local Gangs but it is NOT the hood

Germantown is considered the suberbs to people from the hood in the DMV, there may be a few not so nice areas but it aint poppin out there.. He may have lived in a "rough-ish" area but Germantown aint a bad place to grow up

 

[Harry B]

When does he say that he's about that life?

I heard an interview and he said that his brothers were gang members and dad had problems with drugs, nothing else. He said his hood was good but had some trashy spots.

There's levels to hoods and the people from those hoods, and there's problems like drugs, bad parenting and stuff in families in all types of hoods.

I think he's extremely soft compared to rappers from the bottom, I also think he compares his hood to the surrounding nicer areas and perhaps not bad areas from other parts of the region or nation. Its like Canadian cats who talk about their hoods, the benchmark is the rest of Canada and perhaps not the US. So if they talk about 2 cats getting murked (that one time 2 years ago) it might be a lot compared to other hoods in Canada.