Is Phelps on the stuff?

[Brozay]

Armstrong was an complete a$$hole to his fellow competitors, media and drug testers. Phelps has better PR image and Olympics is a MAJOR PR stint for the world powers. They will overlook his positive tests as long as he plays ball.

Media was ready to throw him in the bushes not long ago, but he keeps winning so they can't do shyt. He isn't the wholesome dude you thinking. He went thru the negative media ringer for a minute

Armstrong was like American hero level before the scandal breh, do you not remember livestrong ?

 

[Fenian]

He's got the perfect swimmers body. He's 6ft 4 but has the torso and arms of a 6ft 8 man and the legs of a 5ft 10 man. His short legs mean there is almost no drag when he swims.

He also has huge hands and feet relative to his size and only produces half the lactic acid his rivals do, guy is just a freak built for swimming.

Let Science Explain: Why Is Michael Phelps the Undisputed King of Swimming?

 

[David_TheMan]

Every top level?

Yes every top level olympic athlete.
Hell I'll say ever top level professional athlete as well.

You can only try to stay so naive, eventually you have to grow up and recognize the game for what it is.

Russia was just punished for implementing a massive country wide doping scheme. During that time the US has been largely dominating those doped up athletes in competition. Eventually you have to recognize US athletes are doping as well when.

Now look specifically at Phelps, this man is 31 and instead of declining this motherfukker is still dominant, in a purely physical sport. That is the opposite of reality, you don't get more dominant when you physically decline, doesn't matter was anyone says, not against a younger pool of competitors.

 

[Formerly known as...]

Yes every top level olympic athlete.
Hell I'll say ever top level professional athlete as well.

You can only try to stay so naive, eventually you have to grow up and recognize the game for what it is.

Russia was just punished for implementing a massive country wide doping scheme. During that time the US has been largely dominating those doped up athletes in competition. Eventually you have to recognize US athletes are doping as well when.

Now look specifically at Phelps, this man is 31 and instead of declining this motherfukker is still dominant, in a purely physical sport. That is the opposite of reality, you don't get more dominant when you physically decline, doesn't matter was anyone says, not against a younger pool of competitors.

Floyd Mayweather included? Cristiano Ronaldo and Messi included?

I agree many are on Drugs but you can't deny a life long hard work ethic sometimes, hence why some are a cut above.

Some greats are just beasts, and put everything into their craft, and yes some do dope. but to say every one dopes is crazy to me.

 

[Black White Sox Hat]

Oh he on the stuff alright..the green stuff...

 

[AITheAnswerAI]

Yes every top level olympic athlete.
Hell I'll say ever top level professional athlete as well.

You can only try to stay so naive, eventually you have to grow up and recognize the game for what it is.

Russia was just punished for implementing a massive country wide doping scheme. During that time the US has been largely dominating those doped up athletes in competition. Eventually you have to recognize US athletes are doping as well when.

Now look specifically at Phelps, this man is 31 and instead of declining this motherfukker is still dominant, in a purely physical sport. That is the opposite of reality, you don't get more dominant when you physically decline, doesn't matter was anyone says, not against a younger pool of competitors.

Nope, that's not true.

You know, a lot of people get on this slippery slope about this stuff (often times out of shape and nonathletic people too)

Pretty soon you're gonna see your mom open up a pickle jar by herself, and you'll swear she's juicing.

 

[tremonthustler1]

Armstrong was an complete a$$hole to his fellow competitors, media and drug testers. Phelps has better PR image and Olympics is a MAJOR PR stint for the world powers. They will overlook his positive tests as long as he plays ball.

Phelps got busted for a DUI and it was almost curtains for his image.

 

[David_TheMan]

Floyd Mayweather included? Cristiano Ronaldo and Messi included?

I agree many are on Drugs but you can't deny a life long hard work ethic sometimes, hence why some are a cut above.

Some greats are just beasts, and put everything into their craft, and yes some do dope. but to say every one dopes is crazy to me.

All three, LeBron, Dwade, Tom Brady, CAm. All included.
PEDs don't mean a person doesn't work, the PEDs let them work more actually.

I have no doubt greats are predisposed to being great, they use PEDs though.

Time to remove yourself of the notion that there are clean high level athletes though, no reason to think any differently of these people than before.

Nope, that's not true.

You know, a lot of people get on this slippery slope about this stuff (often times out of shape and nonathletic people too)

Pretty soon you're gonna see your mom open up a pickle jar by herself, and you'll swear she's juicing.

If you don't believe its true fine, I know better.
Not a slippery slope at all, reasoned comment, folks are using PEDs to stay around, help get back, help keep their performance up, combat aging, its ridiculous to think they aren't and if you have people staying ahead of those guys its even crazier to think they aren't doing the same things.

 

[superunknown23]

And Bolt is clean?
Dude destroys known dopers like Lance Armstrong did... but we just gotta believe he's superhuman?

Did Phelps crush records set by dopers like that?

 

[ShenJingPoQi]

Media was ready to throw him in the bushes not long ago, but he keeps winning so they can't do shyt. He isn't the wholesome dude you thinking. He went thru the negative media ringer for a minute

Armstrong was like American hero level before the scandal breh, do you not remember livestrong ?

Phelps is a swimmer and represents America in the Olympics. The Olympics goes beyond sports, it is a major PR war between the superpowers of the world. He’s the most dominant athlete of all time and is a white American. He has serious backing and cannot fail. His previous indiscretions have already been forgotten which shows you the belly of the beast. Phelps can do whatever he wants, the benefit outweighs the good here.

Armstrong is different. He was putting his finger UP to USADA, an American organization and making a mockery of American testing, which hampered America’s “war on drugs” and their tic of tac battle against Russia and China.

You cannot compare the both.

 

[superunknown23]

Phelps is a swimmer and represents America in the Olympics. The Olympics goes beyond sports, it is a major PR war between the superpowers of the world. He’s the most dominant athlete of all time and is a white American. He has serious backing and cannot fail. His previous indiscretions have already been forgotten which shows you the belly of the beast. Phelps can do whatever he wants, the benefit outweighs the good here.

Armstrong is different. He was putting his finger UP to USADA, an American organization and making a mockery of American testing, which hampered America’s “war on drugs” and their tic of tac battle against Russia and China.

You cannot compare the both.

Americans caught and suspended Armstrong. It was the Euro-dominated UCI that was protecting him for years (he brought them a lot of money)

 

[ShenJingPoQi]

Americans caught and suspended Armstrong. It was the Euro-dominated UCI that was protecting him for years (he brought them a lot of money)

He was never caught, admitted guilt at the end due relentless pressure and evidence.

 

[Brozay]

Phelps is a swimmer and represents America in the Olympics. The Olympics goes beyond sports, it is a major PR war between the superpowers of the world. He’s the most dominant athlete of all time and is a white American. He has serious backing and cannot fail. His previous indiscretions have already been forgotten which shows you the belly of the beast. Phelps can do whatever he wants, the benefit outweighs the good here.

Armstrong is different. He was putting his finger UP to USADA, an American organization and making a mockery of American testing, which hampered America’s “war on drugs” and their tic of tac battle against Russia and China.

You cannot compare the both.

I think youre forgetting how big of a deal Armstrong was tbh

 

[superunknown23]

He was never caught, admitted guilt at the end due relentless pressure and evidence.

he failed a dope test at the Tour of Switzerland in 2001 and they covered it up.

the USADA had affidavits from Tyler Hamilton and Floyd Landis, both of whom said that Armstrong indicated that he had tested positive at the 2001 Tour de Suisse, but was able to “make the EPO test result go away.” Landis further said that Armstrong said that he and team leader Johan Bruyneel “flew to the UCI headquarters and made a financial agreement to keep the positive test hidden.”

He was loading up just a few weeks before the Tour de France.

UCI hid Armstrong dope test, says new chief Cookson

Disgraced cyclist Lance Armstrong would not have won seven Tour de France titles without receiving favourable treatment from the International Cycling Union (UCI), the current head of the world governing body said on Monday.

A report by the Independent Reform Commission published on Monday said previous UCI management were more concerned about their own image rather than tackling doping as the American rode his way to Tour de France glory from 1999-2005.

"The style of leadership is pretty much criticised in the report and led to major errors," Brian Cookson told reporters from the UCI headquarters in Aigle, Switzerland.

He added that the UCI was "trying to control and limit rather than eliminate (the problem) completely and at the time they always put the image and the business of the sport before integrity, transparency and honesty."

The then UCI management's shortcomings were first exposed in 2012 when the U.S. Anti-Doping Agency (USADA) published their reasoned decision after banning Armstrong, who later admitted to cheating, for doping.

"UCI exempted Lance Armstrong from rules, failed to target test him despite the suspicions, and publicly supported him against allegations of doping," the report said.

"The report confirms that, for more than a decade, UCI leaders treated riders and teams unequally, allowing some to be above the rules," USADA president Travis Tygart said in a statement.

It helped Armstrong cheat his way to Tour de France triumphs, according to Cookson.

"Clearly, a rider like Lance Armstrong, in 1999, had a positive test for cortisone (during the Tour de France) and UCI assisted him in covering that up," the Briton, who was elected in 2013, said.

"That was in my view an absolute critical moment."

After providing authorities with a backdated Therapeutical Use Exemption (TUE) following a positive test for cortisone, Armstrong continued and won the race, which had been labelled the "Tour of Renewal" one year after the Festina doping scandal.

The UCI is now taking the problem "seriously while other sports are not taking it seriously," Cookson added.

The UCI boss has a lot on his plate, however, as the CIRC report showed that doping, if less prevalent, is still endemic, with banned doctors still operating.

"These things are very difficult for a governing body (to fight against)," Cookson admitted.

"We'll work closer with governments."

UCI hid Armstrong dope test, says new chief Cookson

 

[Gyasi85]

So we hating on Phelps now? He ain't on nothing other than Gas