Is the Native American Struggle = or > than the African American Struggle?

[Tommy Knocks]

Jews Had it the Worst.

I think so, but black people want to seem like they've been fukked over the worst to justify their lack of forming a community and lifting themselves out of poverty.

The jews on the other hand, lost 6 million and manage to use that to their advantage. They've also been living in ghettos for 300 years, that's actually where the word ghetto came from. They were considered the rats of europe, but of course african americans are going to state no, because they're not quite educated in terms of world history, actually most americans aren't. The jews had it real bad in europe, esp when christianity was fresh and new in europe. Jews were considered christ killers, and endured some mid-evil shyt. humans were far more barbaric in the past.

transatlantic slaves = 300-400 yrs < Jews being slaves for 1,500 years + holocaust

 

[Nomad1]

You guys can't compare two different hardships. Us blacks and the Natives had it bad in two different ways.
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[Elle Driver]

I think so, but black people want to seem like they've been fukked over the worst to justify their lack of forming a community and lifting themselves out of poverty.

The jews on the other hand, lost 6 million and manage to use that to their advantage. They've also been living in ghettos for 300 years, that's actually where the word ghetto came from. They were considered the rats of europe, but of course african americans are going to state no, because they're not quite educated in terms of world history, actually most americans aren't. The jews had it real bad in europe, esp when christianity was fresh and new in europe. Jews were considered christ killers, and endured some mid-evil shyt. humans were far more barbaric in the past.

transatlantic slaves = 300-400 yrs < Jews being slaves for 1,500 years + holocaust

You can't seriously believe that the Hebrews enslaved in Egypt are the same European Jews? See that's where your argument crumbles. Yiddish is a Germanic language, all they did was convert to Judaism. Correct me if I'm wrong but genetics tests have proven that they are not Semitic (heck certain Ethiopian tribes are semitic), but are Khazar aka Turkic.

And by the way you need to stop acting like Jews and blacks were ever on the same level playing field. Ashkenazi Germanic Jews are white, no two ways about it, so therefore they have white privilege. Unless a Jew tells you they're Jewish, you'll just assume they're white. How the fukk is that even comparable to the stigma of being black?

 

[Tommy Knocks]

You can't seriously believe that the Hebrews enslaved in Egypt are the same European Jews? See that's where your argument crumbles. Yiddish is a Germanic language, all they did was convert to Judaism. Correct me if I'm wrong but genetics tests have proven that they are not Semitic (heck certain Ethiopian tribes are semitic), but are Khazar aka Turkic.

And by the way you need to stop acting like Jews and blacks were ever on the same level playing field. Ashkenazi Germanic Jews are white, no twoe'ays about it, so therefore they have white privilege. Unless a Jew tells you they're Jewish, you'll just assume they're white. How the fukk is that even comparable to the stigma of being black?

Nah, they've shown semite blood, look it up, there's a reason Hitler killed them by the millions, and the germans were leaders in genetic study. They view them as different and over the years, they have 'whitened' much like african americans are whitening. I go back to Congo and look nothing like my cousins since my dads side is creole. In the next 500 yrs, doubt we'll resemble much like our african cousins, we'll look more like Brazilians (excluding north brazil) peoples genetic make up change all the time (just look at south americans, they didn't exist before 1500s), do you think west africans looked the way they did during the egyptian reign? fukk no, we looked more east african at the time. banuts looked more kenyan back then.

Jews did not have white privilege in europe. thinking otherwise is fukking insane. you might want to look up jews in the 1300s. they've been persecuted numerous times. Prior to 1600s, what atrocities did africans endure? not a damn thing, we ran our own fukking show. in fact the Mali Empire was the richest empire in the world around 1300s when the jews were living like rats in europe. Have you forgotten african history all of a sudden? we havent always had it bad. we were once kings.

 

[MAKAVELI25]

Smh @ posting a thread like this on a majority black website and expecting an objective thread. Some of you dudes are either naive or trolling

 

[kingdizzy01]

You guys can't compare two different hardships. Us blacks and the Natives had it bad in two different ways.
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this.

some of yall soundin mad ignorant. them ones passin for white aint native. they got a grandfather who was 1/8 cherokee and they just run with it. they are called culture vultures. the native american community is indeed on some third world shyt. and what fukkin checks yall talkin bout? i aint get shyt.

 

[Elle Driver]

Nah, they've shown semite blood, look it up, there's a reason Hitler killed them by the millions, and the germans were leaders in genetic study. They view them as different and over the years, they have 'whitened' much like african americans are whitening. I go back to Congo and look nothing like my cousins since my dads side is creole. In the next 500 yrs, doubt we'll resemble much like our african cousins, we'll look more like Brazilians (excluding north brazil) peoples genetic make up change all the time (just look at south americans, they didn't exist before 1500s), do you think west africans looked the way they did during the egyptian reign? fukk no, we looked more east african at the time. banuts looked more kenyan back then.

Jews did not have white privilege in europe. thinking otherwise is fukking insane. you might want to look up jews in the 1300s. they've been persecuted numerous times. Prior to 1600s, what atrocities did africans endure? not a damn thing, we ran our own fukking show. in fact the Mali Empire was the richest empire in the world around 1300s when the jews were living like rats in europe. Have you forgotten african history all of a sudden? we havent always had it bad. we were once kings.

Hitler killed them because he viewed himself and his people as a descendant of Aryans. It really doesn't matter to a Nazi if you're Sephardic, Mizrahi, Ashkenazi, or even Falasha. It really didn't matter to them what their origins were, a Jew was a Jew to them.

The reason Brazilians look so genetically diverse compared to African Americans is because colonizers mixed with them more freely. The English were more bougie, even if they did mix with African Americans, they'd hide it and they'd make it known that we was black. You got the darkest skinned Afro-Latino claiming they're not black. It's been almost 5 centuries and our genetics haven't changed, what makes you think a thousand years will make a difference? Unless blacks starting mixing with whites or other non-blacks to an extreme degree, I guess nothing'll change unless we move to a different climate. Africa is the most genetically diverse continent. Look at Nubia vs Egypt, or even within Ethiopia you'll see people who look more Bantu and some who have more slender features.

I never said Jews had white privilege in Europe, how the fukk does that even make sense if Europe is the birth place of white people? Privilege is being placed over other people, in America/South Africa it was black vs white. I know we was once kings, but when money became the motivation humans became the target, and our peoples got shipped over here. To this day, the richest man in the history of the world is Mansa Musa and that nikka been dead. Which brings me to my next point, Jews were creating their own wealth by whitening themselves into whatever industry they're tryna take over. That means treating blacks like shyt. The same fukking thing happened to the Irish. Are they suddenly not white? They became white by doing horrible shyt to blacks.

But that's not the point, what we as blacks go through seems to me as ever lasting. We still going through it. Ask a white person about slavery they start getting all defensive, but it's a punishable crime in Germany to deny the holocaust. That white enough privilege for ya?

 

[CashmereThoughts]

I don't know Fam, natives appear to be so fukked up in the game.

 

[Tommy Knocks]

Hitler killed them because he viewed himself and his people as a descendant of Aryans. It really doesn't matter to a Nazi if you're Sephardic, Mizrahi, Ashkenazi, or even Falasha. It really didn't matter to them what their origins were, a Jew was a Jew to them.

I think you're missing my point...if they were white, he wouldnt have killed them....

The reason Brazilians look so genetically diverse compared to African Americans is because colonizers mixed with them more freely. The English were more bougie, even if they did mix with African Americans, they'd hide it and they'd make it known that we was black. You got the darkest skinned Afro-Latino claiming

again, missing the point. read my shyt slowly. I said that african americans look nothing like africans, we are whitening, and in 500 yrs we may very well start to look brazilian. IR is at an all time high, we are behind brazilians of course, but now, esp with economic lines being blurred and gentrificiation, we're are mixing, 500 yrs we look brazilian, 500 those dark skin brazilians will be rare. of course they are ahead of us, that's not the point. the point is that we will be where they are NOW in 500 yrs. and that we look nothing like africans, and thus, jews have changed over time too, esp living in europe for 1,500 yrs.

I never said Jews had white privilege in Europe, how the fukk does that even make sense if Europe is the birth place of white people?

huh? you wrote

Ashkenazi Germanic Jews are white, no two ways about it, so therefore they have white privilege.

wtf lol.

Which brings me to my next point, Jews were creating their own wealth by whitening themselves into whatever industry they're tryna take over. That means treating blacks like shyt. The same fukking thing happened to the Irish. Are they suddenly not white? They became white by doing horrible shyt to blacks.

Jews did what they had to do, and until we begin to do horrible shyt to advance in this cold world and learn to play outside the rules, we'll continue to flop. Aint shyt gonna get handed to us, we need to take it, and the jews are a great example of that. I admire it, it took them thousands of years, but I admire it. I still dont know how you can compare 1,500 yrs plus the holocaust (6 million in just 7-10 yrs) to 300-400 yrs of slavery tho.

But that's not the point, what we as blacks go through seems to me as ever lasting. We still going through it. Ask a white person about slavery they start getting all defensive, but it's a punishable crime in Germany to deny the holocaust. That white enough privilege for ya?

Aint nobody denying slavery and germans get very weird when you bring up the holocaust so I dont even know what point you were making. nikkas get defensive about murder stats and urban crime all the time. post an article here and put "look what black people are doing" and watch the defense look like the pittsburg steelers, its what humans do esp if they weren't directly involved, how else do you fukking embrace it? OH YEA I DID IT, when you know you didnt?

 

[Groanman]

What's the common denominator in each struggle?

 

[Elle Driver]

I think you're missing my point...if they were white, he wouldnt have killed them....


again, missing the point. read my shyt slowly. I said that african americans look nothing like africans, we are whitening, and in 500 yrs we may very well start to look brazilian. IR is at an all time high, we are behind brazilians of course, but now, esp with economic lines being blurred and gentrificiation, we're are mixing, 500 yrs we look brazilian, 500 those dark skin brazilians will be rare. of course they are ahead of us, that's not the point. the point is that we will be where they are NOW in 500 yrs. and that we look nothing like africans, and thus, jews have changed over time too, esp living in europe for 1,500 yrs.




huh? you wrote

wtf lol.



Jews did what they had to do, and until we begin to do horrible shyt to advance in this cold world and learn to play outside the rules, we'll continue to flop. Aint shyt gonna get handed to us, we need to take it, and the jews are a great example of that. I admire it, it took them thousands of years, but I admire it. I still dont know how you can compare 1,500 yrs plus the holocaust (6 million in just 7-10 yrs) to 300-400 yrs of slavery tho.


Aint nobody denying slavery and germans get very weird when you bring up the holocaust so I dont even know what point you were making. nikkas get defensive about murder stats and urban crime all the time. post an article here and put "look what black people are doing" and watch the defense look like the pittsburg steelers, its what humans do esp if they weren't directly involved, how else do you fukking embrace it? OH YEA I DID IT, when you know you didnt?

The thing you're missing is, I said in my second post to you that they obviously didn't have white privilege in Europe because it was a social construct meant to create power in the New World, with a pretty much homogenous society like Europe, how would white privilege exist? Like I said before, it would cease to exist back then because there were no other races for them to trample over. It was based on religion. Coupled with the fact that I explained further that the Irish did the same thing. At one point, the Irish were considered as low as blacks. But they were given a proposition, if they wanted to be white, they had to intiate themselves by fukking up black farmers among many other things (http://www.amazon.com/Irish-Became-White-Routledge-Classics/dp/0415963095). Anti-Irish sentiment is rampant in the United Kingdom, go look for yourself.


I don't think you can make a blanket statement like that, because it's so many different ethnic groups, tribes, clans, in Africa. So who exactly don't African Americans look like? You keep disregarding the fact that Africa is the most genetically diverse continent. You'll see the light brights, straight haired, light eyed Africans and guess what? Them nikkas indigenous, they ain't mix with no white folks. But they'll have you believe that. For years white genealogists tried to claim people from the Horn of Africa were Caucasoid because of their features. It's bullshyt. I don't get the point you're trying to make, I mean how will the appearance of African Americans change unless we change/adapt to a new environment and climate, or intermix like South Americans did. The Jews changed because they mixed with white people, yet again like I said, in an effort to get themselves into white society. They wanted to move on up, and the way to do that was by whitening themselves (they've done horrible shyt to black people too).

It's illegal and punishable by law to deny the Holocaust. It's called Holocaust Denial, look it up. A few of the countries that made it illegal are Germany, Hungary, Romania, and I think Austria too.

Here's the point that you don't wanna acknowledge, the Ashkenazi Germanic Jews that were slaughtered during the Holocaust, were Germanic, not Hebrew. They do not trace their lineage to Hebrews/Canaan. So therefore, your whole 1,400 years thing goes out the window. They converted to Judaism, and they're Turkic, as much as they try to deny it. And hey there's nothing wrong with that, it's a stigma with being Jewish too.

I actually will not even go any further because now you're just acting like a troll. You acting like ain't no such thing as the Prison Industrial Complex, or that we ain't racially profiled for being black, or that similarly to the Jews during the Segregation Era of the United States we was pushed to the poorer neighborhoods and not allowed to mix with the higher ups. Yeah let's just act like it don't exist.

 

[Brofato]

This is quite the long thread. I bet there are some truly enlightening posts in this thread from some highly intelligent individuals. On the coli.

 

[Blackout]

@Tommy Knocks

Didn't Jews get reparations?

 

[Tommy Knocks]

I still dont know how you can compare 1,500 yrs plus the holocaust (6 million in just 7-10 yrs) to 300-400 yrs of slavery tho.

fukk all the dancing and circles. end result. I gotta hit the shower, time to go clubbin. peace.

 

[Tommy Knocks]

@Tommy Knocks

Didn't Jews get reparations?

I dont think those 6 million got paid in the after life, if there is one. nor did the 1,500 yrs of being treated like rats in europe. during that time blacks were some of the richest people on the planet. ask me if I'd prefer to be african in the 1300s or jewish, I'd pick african.