Is the Native American Struggle = or > than the African American Struggle?

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Youtube videos do not equal verified evidence

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Chance phenotypical similarities in material culture don't equate to actual habitation.

That book is a crock.

Still waiting on real scholarship.

That would actually really be interesting if true though

Christopher Columbus wasn’t the only European explorer who made note of an African presence in the Americas upon his arrival. Historians revealed that at least a dozen other explorers, including Vasco Nunez de Balboa, also made record of seeing “Negroes” when they reached the New World. The accounts match up with the reports from the natives in Mexico. Nicholas Leon, an eminent Mexican authority, recorded the oral traditions of his people and ultimately kept track of a key piece of evidence that Black people made it to the New World far before their European counterparts. His reports revealed accounts from natives saying “the oldest inhabitants of Mexico were blacks. [T]he existence of blacks and giants is commonly believed by nearly all the races of our sail and in their various language they had words to designate them.”

@VegasCAC why you ignored this post???

 

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[Faneto]

Leo Weiner died in 1939. He was barely a professional historian. He wrote that book in 1922.


Hopefully I don't need to explain that there's been advances in scholarship since then.

Columbus said a lot of shyt to try to explain things he didn't understand. He also thought he was in the East Indies

Me not agreeing with pseudo-historical bullshyt has nothing to do with my race. It's just not true

And it not being true takes nothing away from the incredible resilience and strength of African peoples in the New World

But I realize I'm probably not going to get an intelligent conversation in TLR about something like this. Maybe I should check out Higher Learning

Shut the fukk up CAC

 

[VegasCAC]

I don't agree.

The First Americans Were Africans: Documented Evidence
Dr. Imhotep is the first person to hold a Ph.D. with a specialization in ancient African history.

We Are Not JUST Africans :: The Black Native Americans
-> His Academia Profile - Clyde Winters | Uthman dan Fodio Institute - Academia.edu

They Came Before Columbus: The African Presence in Ancient America (Journal of African Civilizations)
Ivan Van Sertima, the Guyanese historian, linguist, and anthropologist

The people who wrote these books ( and more) went to universities and hold degrees

or does real scholarship = agreeing with white supremacy??

Where does he have his Ph.D. from? He makes that claim, but I'm not sure if it's true. There's a lot of African American guys with Ph.Ds in African American history that actually work in academic departments. And none of them actually think Africans were in the New World before European contact.

The "Uthman dan Fodio Institute" isn't an academic institution. Fugazi


Real scholarship does not equal agreeing with white supremacy. In fact, real scholarship breaks down white supremacist views of history effortlessly.

These snake-oil pseudo-intellectuals have you thinking that if you don't agree with their views, you are a white supremacist. They do that to sell their wares. They set up false binaries. It's not one or the other. You can think their views are full of shyt (which they are), and at the same time think that white supremacy is full of shyt.


But I'm out mayne.

 

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Any book suggestions on native American history?

 

[havoc]

75% of Native Americans are Black, so this thread is stupid

Do you have any evidence to support your statement?

 

[The Devil's Advocate]

valid points can be made for both sides..

euros invaded both of their motherlands.. and brought death and destruction to both peoples..

how many black people are left in the world... how many native americans?

how many black people still have power in africa... how many native americans have power in the us

 

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[Black Nate Grey]

There is no comparison because their struggle is over, they will never again be a major power in North America even the world short of a miracle. Them getting reserves and Casinos is white people entertaining them and monitoring, we all know if they want to they can find some bullshyt loophole to shyt on them even more.

It's sad but it's true SMH

 

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