Is the US becoming a Police State?

[OsO]

This is the problem I have with the Conspiracy Theory crowd: EVERYTHING must be one. It's absurd.

In this case, there is historical, legislative, and documented proof. It ceases to be a conspiracy theory and becomes a realistic point of contention.

To place this debate into the same realm of "earthquake-causing weapons" is absurd.

Leyet my brother, I got love for you. I don't know you beyond these words I read on a screen or voice I heard, but I got love for you. You are a good dude, but you suffer from what many of my friends suffer from: counter-extremism.

You hate the norm and accepted, so you go flying towards the opposite extreme. You think Western Medicine is bad and corrupt, so you fly towards homeopathy scams that are capitalist scum in sheep's clothing preying on the naive. How about finding a middle ground and determining what is best?

ive balanced my views on western medicine already. ive stated numerous times it should be used for things where it has a distinct advantage over natural healing methods (i.e. gunshot wound, emergency care, certain specific strains of viruses, diseases, and stds).

but overall i still advocate for natural healing methods because nature is better for the body than synthetic pharma, and prevention is always better than cure.

but youve been jumping to a lot of conclusions about me lately. first in the july 4th thread and now here.

im not that extreme. maybe 2 or 3 years ago you could say i was an extremist, but not today. in fact im only extreme nowadays about shyt that is unjust to my fellow entities.

ive never spoken about earthquake causing weapons, and i no longer advocate that all western medicine is evil.

no need to put words in peoples mouth or create false statements to justify your perspectives of other people... thats that vic von doom school of posting... and youre better than that

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

thats that vic von doom school of posting... and youre better than that

lol...what I gotta do with this? Nobody's ever put words in your mouth bruh. You just make contradictory, flawed arguments and when the flaws are pointed out, you tell people they're misinterpreting or misrepresenting what you said. But really, you didn't understand the full scope of the implications of what you said in the first place.

 

[OsO]

lol...what I gotta do with this? Nobody's ever put words in your mouth bruh. You just make contradictory, flawed arguments and when the flaws are pointed out, you tell people they're misinterpreting or misrepresenting what you said. But really, you didn't understand the full scope of the implications of what you said in the first place.

ive called you out several times for fabricating posts my guy, please dont front for the cameras.

but if you really believe what you just typed please save both of us the trouble and dont even respond








































because you're insane

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

ive called you out several times for fabricating posts my guy, please dont front for the cameras.

but if you really believe what you just typed please save both of us the trouble and dont even respond








































because you're insane

lol...I've never fabricated any of your posts dude. Stop talking nonsense. The problem is you often make claims about things you don't understand, then when others start filling in the blanks for you with facts you omitted or misrepresented, you accuse them not understanding or distorting your argument, and you get all pompous and sensitive like you're doing now.

 

[SquirtleSwag]

i can't even smoke pot without getting arrested

 

[MMS]

Before I get deep in this discussion

What do y'all do? Are you students? In industry?

How do you apply your knowledge to improve your quality of life(women and forums aside)

as i figured, noone has an answer for this

message board geniuses on both side huh

 

[irishfury]

Those Who Sacrifice Liberty For Security Deserve Neither.

One of My Fav Quotes

 

[88m3]

Freedom isn't free

 

[OsO]

lol...I've never fabricated any of your posts dude. Stop talking nonsense. The problem is you often make claims about things you don't understand, then when others start filling in the blanks for you with facts you omitted or misrepresented, you accuse them not understanding or distorting your argument, and you get all pompous and sensitive like you're doing now.

i might do a little of that


but that doesnt take away from the fact that you fabricate a lot of shyt, you always have, and i always call you out for it. and if you dont see that obvious truth then youre not accepting reality and i dont even know what to tell you... that's some personal shyt you gotta work out.

as i figured, noone has an answer for this

message board geniuses on both side huh

get more wisdom, make better life choices, increase quality of life, simple.

 

[MMS]

i might do a little of that


but that doesnt take away from the fact that you fabricate a lot of shyt, you always have, and i always call you out for it. and if you dont see that obvious truth then youre not accepting reality and i dont even know what to tell you... that's some personal shyt you gotta work out.




get more wisdom, make better life choices, increase quality of life, simple.

theres a plethora of life choices we make over the years, give me one such choice youve made based on your knowledge of conspiracies that has improved your life(even slightly)

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

i might do a little of that


but that doesnt take away from the fact that you fabricate a lot of shyt, you always have, and i always call you out for it. and if you dont see that obvious truth then youre not accepting reality and i dont even know what to tell you... that's some personal shyt you gotta work out.

I've never fabricated a single thing you said unless it was some obvious sarcastic joke shyt about magic crystals or something, but you can keep claiming that over and over again if you want.

But what's funny is after a cessation of the back-and-forth stuff and 3 podcasts that were pretty productive and established more of a mutual (I hope) respect and understanding, you're still so salty that you're mentioning me and arguments we had on the old website from who knows how long ago in threads here that I wasn't even posting in. Let that marinate for a sec.

 

[Agent Mulder]

the real question is "what are we actually gonna do about it????" unfortunantly, america won't make a stand til' it's too late.

 

[OsO]

I've never fabricated a single thing you said

the HL and KTL archives are full of examples of you twisting my words and putting words in my mouth (pause), to the extent where it has become a running joke. so if you really believe what you just claimed, youre either in denial, a liar, or completely insane. whatever the case thats your issue to deal with cuz im off it

But what's funny is after a cessation of the back-and-forth stuff and 3 podcasts that were pretty productive and established more of a mutual (I hope) respect and understanding, you're still so salty that you're mentioning me and arguments we had on the old website from who knows how long ago in threads here that I wasn't even posting in. Let that marinate for a sec.

vic here you go again playin the victim, coppin pleas. you take e-jabs at people all the time so i am the bringer of your karma.

and how many times have you mentioned me in threads i wasnt even posting in victor? let that marinate for a sec

i think youre good on the podcast because we exchange opinions while maintaining respect, but that's something you have never done on these boards. i dropped your name cuz type was displaying one of your characteristics and that was it. you should have either ignored it or come back with an insult of your own and that's what it is.

but dont come back on puss mode

 

[OsO]

the real question is "what are we actually gonna do about it????"

first thing first, we gotta start by leading by example in our own lives. whatever you want others to do, you have to first do yourself.

once we get our own houses in order, then we can talk about effectively organizing.

 

[88m3]

first thing first, we gotta start by leading by example in our own lives. whatever you want others to do, you have to first do yourself.

once we get our own houses in order, then we can talk about effectively organizing.

Why aren't you dead or in prison?