Lobbying is dope.The military industrial complex is a such a joke/sham.
And I'm STILL trying to wrap my head around the fact that lobbying is legal, but everywhere else it's a bribe.
Its just that WE haven't taken advantage of it.
Is the US Govt doing enough for poor people? Why or why not?
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Its just that WE haven't taken advantage of it.
Politicians fattening their pockets for corporate interests doesn't impress me. It should be illegal.
ExodusNirvana
Change is inevitable...
The US could cut military spending by 1/3rd and spend it on Infrastructure, Education, and other social programs and we'd still be the most powerful nation in the world military wise, and the returns on that investment in itself will push the country forward even more.
mbewane
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1. US is free to get out, like they did for the UNESCO. If they don't, it's because it's to their advantage. You can't seriously believe the US is a benevolent actor in NATO lol
2. Each country decides what is wants to spend on what. That's what a budget is for. Scandinavian countries decide to invest in their population/the future, the US in arms, prisons and banks.
politicians aren't making money off it. They raise money for campaigns.
Big difference.
If you really don't think they aren't pocketing some of this money, I dunno what to say breh.
1. I don't care about what you perceive as "benevolent" but they certainly pursue their own interests. As does everyone else. Learn the difference.
2. Most of Europe doesn't spend on nearly as much stuff as we do or has the land or population to support it. I really don't think you understand how much defense spending plays into this. The US Military arguably supports Europe's welfare state.
Do you know how hard it is to pocket that money?
Most of the people that get busted only do so for like 150-250K. Chump change. Its just not worth it.
Of course it's not worth it, but people aint shyt.
You're overstepping here.
Simply put, I see nothing wrong with lobbying.
Its always people who lose complaining about it.
Pushing for issues isn't the problem. Its that people don't take advantage.
mbewane
Knicks: 93 til infinity
1. That's what I said. US pays what it pays because it's in THEIR interest to do so. Scandinavian countries don't because it's not in THEIR interest to do so. If Americans aren't happy about the deal, they can abandon NATO.
2. what
A: A conservative perspective:1. That's what I said. US pays what it pays because it's in THEIR interest to do so. Scandinavian countries don't because it's not in THEIR interest to do so. If Americans aren't happy about the deal, they can abandon NATO.
2. what
http://www.cato.org/publications/co...subsidizes-european-freeriding-welfare-states
http://econlog.econlib.org/archives/2014/06/why_cant_we_be.html
B. A liberal perspective:
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/b...use-us-military-protects-them/article/2524436
http://www.alternet.org/story/15133...itary,_europe_spends_dough_on_social_programs
C. Academic perspectives:
http://scholar.harvard.edu/files/gl..._u.s._have_a_european-style_welfare_state.pdf
ALL agree...part of the reason Europe can do a lot of what it does is their LACK of military spending overall.
mbewane
Knicks: 93 til infinity
Americans saying Europeans are freeriding? Gee, you don't say
.That's what they're supposed to say breh, come on. And AGAIN, not all countries are obsessed by war, guns, tanks and drones as the US is. Is that so hard to understand for an American? shyt, Europeans know how obsessed you guys are with the army, we know that no matter what happens that's one thing you will keep on funding forever, so why should we fund it more? You'd rather invade Irak than have health care 
Again, if the US has an issue with it, get out of NATO, Europe, etc. If it's such a burden, why don't you guys just get out ? You guys got out of UNESCO, don't care about the UN, even less about the ICC...why not get out of NATO if that's what stopping the US from having an efficient welfare state?
Do you not realize Europe has the same aims that the USA does?Americans saying Europeans are freeriding? Gee, you don't say
Again, if the US has an issue with it, get out of NATO, Europe, etc. If it's such a burden, why don't you guys just get out ? You guys got out of UNESCO, don't care about the UN, even less about the ICC...why not get out of NATO if that's what stopping the US from having an efficient welfare state?
They can sit on their hands talking about how high and mighty they are while thanking the USA for taking the pressure off of them for having to do the same things.