Is the whole illegal immigrants thing just crabs in a bucket?

[Born2BKing]

Oh damn, you did exactly what I thought you would do. Demonstrating just how little empathy you have for 6/10 Black Americans who are a part of the low to no skilled workforce.

So you are not pro-Black, you are only pro-Democratic policies. You care more for illegals than Black Americans, and your post above just proves it.

Thats what you took from my statement? Not giving a fukk about something, means being a supporter of it to you huh

 

[Uachet]

Thats what you took from my statement? Not giving a fukk about something, means being a supporter of it to you huh

You can't read too? Also, your answer already exposes that you care. You just don't care about Black Americans is all. Your whole argument line in this thread exposes that you do care about supporting Democratic policies on this issue. If you did not care, if you were apathetic about it, you would not be running in here making your arguments.

 

[Voice of Reason]

They can spend billions on war, weapons of death, and killing foreigners and not a peep from many of the masses but if an illegal immigrant comes over here and likely takes a dirty job doing shit Americans don't want to do people are raising hell.

I don't really get the vitriol to illegal immigrants. I'm unbothered by them.

Where is your family from?

 

[AAKing23]

They can spend billions on war, weapons of death, and killing foreigners and not a peep from many of the masses but if an illegal immigrant comes over here and likely takes a dirty job doing shit Americans don't want to do people are raising hell.

I don't really get the vitriol to illegal immigrants. I'm unbothered by them.

No it's not, inflation is killing Americans, you don't need more people coming over here and inflating shyt even more and getting housing, government aid and benefits. Get them the fukk outta here

 

[Lucky_Lefty]

If there are 11 million illegals in the country, removing them will lower housing costs.
Actually I think housing is the reason why people are starting to hate illegal immigration. It wasn't a problem when I was growing up. Reagan even gave them amnesty.

And not corporations buying up large amounts of housing and driving up the cost of housing? Not tariffs that are driving up the cost of materials? I lived in TX from 2020-2024ish. The argument there was Californians were driving up the cost. Now its illegals are driving up the cost. How much $$ do y’all think these muthafukkas are raking in? Y’all arguments got a hint of cac logic equating people having Jordan’s or iPhones defrauding the system. Jeezus this website has been compromised

 

[fifth column]

Yes, and we both know that. You want to bring in more people who support those same very people who treat us like crap. Do you not see how your position is oxymoronic at best? There are plenty of examples on this very website of them being racist towards our people when they are in power, when they are police officers, when they have a majority in an area and our people are a minority. You may have not experienced racism from them, but many of us have. I lived in LA, I know how they got down. People in Chicago are complaining about them, they know how they get down. People in NY are complaining about them, they also know how they get down. So your experience is not the totality of the experience our people have with them.

What I do find amazing in all of this is that you are so willing to discount the experiences of other Black Americans in favor of your support for hispanic illegal immigrants. This shows to me that you really don't give a damn about issues that concern our people, you are just a supporter of Democratic policies even when they harm us. Even when I have placed up here on this very website a Congressional report on how illegal immigrations harms Black Americans. You could not care one iota about that, you are more concerned with pushing the policies you are told by the Democratic Party you should support.

I am about Black Americans first, and I look at policies through a lens of how it affects our people. I don't look at it just on a personal level, but also on a general level of how our people overall are affected by them. You have demonstrated to me just now, that is not the case for you.

Black Americans are not a monolith, not every black person wants the same thing out of life. Stop being distracted by what white people tell you to care about. There is nuance with undocumented immigrants, some are taking a risk to better themselves by working and paying taxes, others are nefarious.

 

[Dr. Acula]

Little of column A and a little of column b. There is a legitimate argument that they are used to undermine American labor and I mean in ways that aren't discussed a lot. For example, they allow employers to get away with exploitation and abuse they would not get away with using an American workforce. I like using this example, but this was the case with some Alabama chicken factories where a lot of American workers actually were doing the work. But they dared to speak about unions and demanding some level of respect from their employers. So the employers brought in illegal workers who would never threaten to unionize out of fear of deportation or ever complain or cause trouble for fear of deportation.

Column B on the other hand, in 90 percent of the cases it's a classic divide and conquer. Most people complaining about them aren't personally impacted by it and most of the issues that are attributed to illegals are more of an issue of what the people who stir up the anti illegal sentiment are guilty of. Even in the above, the immigrant is just doing work. They wouldn't be able to do that work if the wealthy greedy individuals didn't exploit them. Yet people have a lot more hate and anger for the immigrant than the person employing them. Just as planned.

 

[Born2BKing]

You can't read too? Also, your answer already exposes that you care. You just don't care about Black Americans is all. Your whole argument line in this thread exposes that you do care about supporting Democratic policies on this issue. If you did not care, if you were apathetic about it, you would not be running in here making your arguments.

Oh bullshyt, spare me that shyt. Because I came in and comment means I care? Stop with the Republican propaganda. You sound like a Fox News, republican shill.

 

[Gritsngravy]

I'm gonna take it a step further. All this shit is just racism with a tuxedo put on it to try and make it look better. This whole railing against illegal immigrants just reeks of the same logic white people use when they rail against DEI and wokeness. They come from privilege and that privilege should be reserved for them and others shouldn't have it extended to them. These people are others, they're not like us. They should be beneath us. We all know many of these people are here illegally because the system wouldn't allow them here any other way. They don't have the money and power to make the system work for them.

So you trying to equate illegal immigration to racism?

You trying to say black people who speak against illegal immigration is racist?

 

[Uachet]

Black Americans are not a monolith, not every black person wants the same thing out of life. Stop being distracted by what white people tell you to care about. There is nuance with undocumented immigrants, some are taking a risk to better themselves by working and paying taxes, others are nefarious.

Yes, Black people are not a monolith. That is why I use actual reports to support my position on this issue. 6/10 Black people are competing with them for the same market of jobs, that was in an actual congressional report. So, those of my people who are not in my same economic status, still receive consideration from me concerning issues that affect our people as a whole.

You, coming in here and making the asinine post you made above, exposes that you could not care less about Black Americans. Your mentality is pretty much, "I am fine, so f'em", right? Instead, you give your empathy to the racists that are crossing the border, who have themselves stated they align with Trump. Those are the people you support, while trying to come in here and make an asinine argument about all Black people not being the same.

Well, what do you call a Black person who will support another ethnicity at the detriment of his own people? What do we call such a person who wil have more empathy for an ethnicity that hates his own than he does for his own ethnicity? Whatever that is called, you have demonstrated in your post that it fits you.

 

[YakSpiller]

All of this nonsense is just so we’ll fight over bullshyt while billionaires fukk us with no vasaline.

A lot of you really fall for this bullshyt

 

[desjardins]

It's a tried and true divide and conquer strategy. Elites pick a convenient boogeyman. If it wasn't immigrants it would have been black people. They just need someone to shift blame for the majority feeling like quality of life has decreased.

 

[Uachet]

Oh bullshyt, spare me that shyt. Because I came in and comment means I care? Stop with the Republican propaganda. You sound like a Fox News, republican shill.

Yes, it means you care. When you are arguing with a person about an issue, it definitely means you care. Are you serious with this position you are taking that you don't care, but you are arguing a side all the same?

 

[Born2BKing]

Yes, it means you care. When you are arguing with a person about an issue, it definitely means you care. Are you serious with this position you are taking that you don't care, but you are arguing a side all the same?

By saying, I don't give a fukk and saying why I don't give a fukk, means I do give a fukk? Are you competing with illegals for jobs? Or are you using Republican shill propaganda?

 

[Gritsngravy]

And this needs to be mentioned for literally everywhere in the world the common avg person in said country is against immigrants

Literally everywhere

And truth be told other Spanish people are more against immigrants more so than black folks, go look at how they voted

And the main issue is gov spending more money to support and bring in these illegals who 100% take away job opportunities versus actual spending to support the people already here, of course people not going to like that