Is there a go-to/hot producer nowadays?

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Zaytoven puts his soul in the keys though, that's what separates him from the rest

I feel you though because so many rappers fukk with Zay that a lot of them rap over the same beats, but I also feel that a lot of nikkas wasn't fukking with him like that when he was giving Gucci all the heat from 2005-2008

I'll be honest, I don't really check for them nikkas outside of what may get posted on here and what I hear on the radio from em', but I ain't heard a damn thing that holds a candle to no shyt RZA or Premier did back in their hey day. shyt is blasphemous to even compare these nikkas to legends like them.

You know what I think? I think 2 things

We dealing with young nikkas who don't know shyt outside of the last 5 to 10 years of Hip Hop and what they grew up on. So they have no knowledge of shyt that came way before them beause most of them don't give a fukk

And then we got SOME old nikkas that's done settled and just accepting bullshyt too and riding the wave and don't wanna be viewed as the old nikka

So medicore shyt gets pushed and promoted cause don't nobody wanna call the shyt for what it is, cause it's catchy --- fan's/consumer's voice and for the artists ---- it sells. So there's nobody challenging the music and actually push the genre forward with some great music. Just a bunch of "follow the leader" or "simon says" ass shyt. fukk that

fukk that, I AM the old nikka. Some nikkas wanna forever fit in and be young. fukk that
 

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I'll be honest, I don't really check for them nikkas outside of what may get posted on here and what I hear on the radio from em', but I ain't heard a damn thing that holds a candle to no shyt RZA or Premier did back in their hey day. shyt is blasphemous to even compare these nikkas to legends like them.

You know what I think? I think 2 things

We dealing with young nikkas who don't know shyt outside of the last 5 to 10 years of Hip Hop and what they grew up on. So they have no knowledge of shyt that came way before them beause most of them don't give a fukk

And then we got SOME old nikkas that's done settled and just accepting bullshyt too and riding the wave and don't wanna be viewed as the old nikka

So medicore shyt gets pushed and promoted cause don't nobody wanna call the shyt for what it is, cause it's catchy --- fan's/consumer's voice and for the artists ---- it sells. So there's nobody challenging the music and actually push the genre forward with some great music. Just a bunch of "follow the leader" or "simon says" ass shyt. fukk that

fukk that, I AM the old nikka. Some nikkas wanna forever fit in and be young. fukk that
I respect that, and tbh i don't know why people compare Zaytoven to producers like Rza and Premier since they're two different types of producers (Samples vs. Instrumentation)

But I'm gonna keep it funky, and you're taking to someone whose first two CDs ever purchased were Flesh Of My Flesh, and Bobby Digital In Stereo, outside of sampling Rza was an average producer. Bobby Digital is a perfect testament to that, and even though I thought the cd was dope, I remember people having mixed feelings about the beats...and I believe the reason was because it wasn't a lot of samples on there so the soul wasn't there


But I feel that the same way Rza gives people that soulful vibe through sampling is the same way Zaytoven gives you that soulful vibe through the piano
 

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nikka, are you serious?:what:

Them nikkas (Zaytoven and Metro Boomin') don't offer nothing mind blowing, bruh. Do the beats knock and go hard in the club? Yeah, but ain't nothing genius but them shyts :russ:

How did RZA and Premier become apart of this conversation? But you know what? I'll play along *Omar smile*

RZA is a motherfukker when it come to samples and knowing how to cut and chop samples. He a scientist with that shyt. He learned a lot from Marley Marl and Prince Paul with that shyt. A damn genius with with a basement demo sound in his heyday. shyt was dirty, live.and soulful as hell!

Premier is a master of the boom bap and those damn scratches and chops. Premier can take 2 seconds of the illest shyt you've ever heard, chop that shyt and make something new out of a collage of samples. He takes the smallest detail and and makes it bigger.

I can't even believe you said some stupid shyt like I couldn't explain to you why RZA and Premier made better beats than Zaytoven. "Ah, nikka please!" - ODB - quoted from a song produced by RZA :pachaha:

Some of y'all nikkas show ya lack of knowledge when you open ya mouths and say stupid shyt like this. But it's all good, it just shows me what I'm dealing with

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So premier and RZA could chop samples, damn nikka you dropping knowledge :ohhh:
nikka mentioned RZA and didn't even talk about how he changed the game by speeding up soul samples and shifting pitch. Like I said, you don't know what you're talking about:yeshrug:
 
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So premier and RZA could chop samples, damn nikka you dropping knowledge :ohhh:
nikka mentioned RZA and didn't even talk about how he changed the game by speeding up soul samples and shifting pitch. Like I said, you don't know what you're talking about:yeshrug:

Either you've never read a post or thread of mine outside of this thread or trolling me some kind of heavy right now. I'd like to think you trolling me

nikka, you gon really sit here and act like I don't know what the fukk I'm talking bout because I didn't say EXACTLY what you said? You ain't said shyt ya damn self, smart ass. EVERYBODY who's over the age of 30 knows RZA changed the game with the soul samples and shyt. I didn't think I needed to be that damn remedial with ass cause I knew you was coming with a dumb ass angle with this shyt and wanted to argue this stupid ass comparsion. And you failed to even bring up Premier. I broke down what made them better producers and you respond like a troll with this shyt.

Shut up, nikka. Some of y'all nikkas just wanna argue and push stupid arguments cause you bored :mjlol:

But since I don't know what I'm talking bout and Zay and Boomin' are so great, enlighten me o wise 1. Please tell me what makes Zaytoven and Metro Boomin' better producers than both RZA and Premier. I gotta hear this :mjgrin:
 
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all these "new" nikkas sound the same...if you took off all their tags from the beats they produved you would have no fukkin idea who is who...

Thank you. I'm tired of these young nikka trying to come at me like what I'm saying is wild or crazy. Naw, nikka, what you saying is funny :pachaha:
 

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Either you've never read a post or thread of mine outside of this thread or trolling me some kind of heavy right now. I'd like to think you trolling me

nikka, you gon really sit here and act like I don't know what the fukk I'm talking bout because I didn't say EXACTLY what you said? You ain't said shyt ya damn self, smart ass. EVERYBODY who's over the age of 30 knows RZA changed the game with the soul samples and shyt. I didn't think I needed to be that damn remedial with ass cause I knew you was coming with a dumb ass angle with this shyt and wanted to argue this stupid ass comparsion. And you failed to even bring up Premier. I broke down what made them better producers and you respond like a troll with this shyt.

Shut up, nikka. Some of y'all nikkas just wanna argue and push stupid arguments cause you bored :mjlol:

But since I don't know what I'm talking bout and Zay and Boomin' are so great, enlighten me o wise 1. Please tell me what makes Zaytoven and Metro Boomin' better producers than both RZA and Premier. I gotta hear this :mjgrin:
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Boy you furious I called you out on that dumb shyt you was talking :dead:
nikka said Premo and RZA the best cause they "sample gud" :skip:
You ain't break a damn thing down
If RZA's techniques were so obvious why ain't you say it?
Quote where I said Zaytoven and Metro Boomin are better than Premo and RZA:yeshrug:
My point was that you tryna play Zaytoven like he some trash new nikka when he been making hits for over a decade. You haven't even heard enough of his beats to make an honest critique, you just biased.
Ion even fukk wit Metro like that I think he's overrated but you done fukked around and let ya flabbiness effect your reading ability.
 
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Boy you furious I called you out on that dumb shyt you was talking :dead:
nikka said Premo and RZA the best cause they "sample gud" :skip:
You ain't break a damn thing down
If RZA's techniques were so obvious why ain't you say it?
Quote where I said Zaytoven and Metro Boomin are better than Premo and RZA:yeshrug:
My point was that you tryna play Zaytoven like he some trash new nikka when he been making hits for over a decade. You haven't even heard enough of his beats to make an honest critique, you just biased.
Ion even fukk wit Metro like that I think he's overrated but you done fukked around and let ya flabbiness effect your reading ability.

Boy? Easy to just type that out when you behind a screen and typing :dame:

Furious? About what? nikka, you funny :laff:

Yup, you tried coming back with some slick shyt and failed. Good night :snooze:
 

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Boy? Easy to just type that out when you behind a screen and typing :dame:

Furious? About what? nikka, you funny :laff:

Yup, you tried coming back with some slick shyt and failed. Good night :snooze:
I'd say everything I just wrote to you in person :yeshrug:
i ain't even trippin off this tho, just chill wit that Zay tiggy slander
 
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I'd say everything I just wrote to you in person :yeshrug:
i ain't even trippin off this tho, just chill wit that Zay tiggy slander

Yeah and I would've corrected you and told you put some respek on my name cause I don't go by "boy" :ufdup:

I ain't tripping either, but I call shyt for what it is and how I see it or hear it in this case :manny:
 

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Yeah and I would've corrected you and told you put some respek on my name cause I don't go by "boy" :ufdup:

I ain't tripping either, but I call shyt for what it is and how I see it or hear it in this case :manny:
You entitled to your opinion. I think you should at least check out some of his beats on your own before you make a conclusion, but to each his own
 
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