Is this “we are not a monolith” talk code for “I am one of the good ones”?

[Dzali OG]

Thanks for doing the Lord's work in this thread. Work got intense for a bit so I couldn't give folks this work like you doin

nikka what work?

What you got to say on it...

 

[GodsPerspective]

nikka what work?

What you got to say on it...

You don't seem like your mind can be changed tbh

Just not worth it

 

[philmonroe]

Understood the 1st sentence and the rest too confusing.

I'm sure you don't care...that means it's not for you. KIM then.

However when I can careless about something...ummm...shyt I don't even make an appearance. Probably don't even grace the thread.

Before things are applied in the real world they grow from an idea. The internet is great for bouncing things off a larger and possibly diverse sample. Same reason most companies have or want online surveys.

The rest isn't too confusing but I understand the tired Internet trope has to show up. I do Kim unless we in the same thread then I'm going to say my say just like you. You're not making sense idgaf about what you grace what does that have to do with me and this thread nothing? Me not caring about your online ideas really don't have much to do with this thread.

The Internet is also great for bullshyting and acting like you're productive and doing something but really just wasting time. That's what you're doing IMO with your bouncing it off others on here when most of these dudes are just online talkers only themselves.

 

[philmonroe]

Thanks for doing the Lord's work in this thread. Work got intense for a bit so I couldn't give folks this work like you doin

Thanks fam but I'm not doing anything but being real and trying to get people to see my pov on this issue just like they are the opposite. Some agree some don't but that's the point of this place and places like this.

 

[Rarely-Wrong Liggins]

Who's using that phrase with so much frequency that it's an issue? I've seen it perhaps........twice in the years I've been here. Just a very specific phrase to which you've given a negative context. Hivemind and group think is common in the black community because it's common in western society in which we were born and raised unfortunately. In this society you don't know you are different until it's explicitly laid out to you. The black people who you believe highlight or accentuate certain hobbies and behaviors as a way to separate themselves from the general black community aren't aware of any potential separation, schisms, or differences until they are told that their behaviors and activities are outside the so called "norm," usually in the form of being ostracized.

You and a few others did bring up insecurity and I'd like to spin that a bit. Perhaps some of the insecurity are from those whom believe that someone highlighting their "differences" from the "average" black person is some form of c00ning. Maybe they are just, I don't know.........describing what they are into, what interests them. I know of the type of people you are talking about in the OP (well, I hope those are the people) and yes, they are quite annoying but I don't see them in any great numbers to be concerned about them. No different from humble braggarts in my opinion.

This thread just highlights the continuing cold war within the so called "community." Almost any outward expression that goes against the perceived norm is met with skepticism and scorn. Most of these people were told they were different, if not an outright problem, but they can't highlight those differences themselves?

 

[Hannibal Fox]

Most blacks “trump is a piece shyt how can any black persson support that dude”

c00ns “we are not a monolith, if some of us want to support him then let us”

Irony here is that in your scenario the phrase is used in proper context......politically



@BmoreGorilla

It's weird hearing political idioms filter down into common usage, you can actually tell who they listen to when you hear certain buzzwords or phrases.

Didn't even have to camouflage the trap .......

 

[Standing on business]

Irony here is that in your scenario the phrase is used in proper context......politically



@BmoreGorilla

It's weird hearing political idioms filter down into common usage, you can actually tell who they listen to when you hear certain buzzwords or phrases.

Didn't even have to camouflage the trap .......

 

[Hannibal Fox]

Whats the issue?

 

[Benefited]

I didn't realize the insecurity was rooted that deeply with some of y'all but this thread has really opened my eyes... I'll try and be more sensitive.

I'll finish with this, if you're not a hoodrats and not a deadbeat why are you mad with what I said? I didnt say most black folk fit in this category I just said I don't want to be associated with them. The only way that could be taken negatively is you have an insecurity pertaining to that subject plain and simple

But I will try and be more sensitive for y'all precious folk

People are mad at that because we study patterns here on thecoli. And the very type of people who would defend the "we are not a monolith" are the same types who would have bitterness towards other demographics of the black community they don't identify with,or who they feel rejected them. You know the types,the ones who are always angry at these "thugs" who they believe get all the women. The ones bitter that hood chicks didn't like them growing up because they were too "square" or weirdos.
These people are bitter and insecure about not fitting in to the box of blackness. Which admittedly can be a tight box sometimes, problem with the "we are not a monolith" types are that they historically have went on to take on fully european attributes in every manner. When what they should have done was looked in the mirror and realized that maybe they were out of touch with their blackness/culture and thats why they didn't fit in. Calling someone a nerd,whitewashed,cornball brotha can be a valid criticism. Black people accused of this should look in the mirror instead of taking their ball and going over to the other side. And not only that but spewing hate rhetoric towards other black demographics from the other side.

I will say more black nerds seem to be finding a confidence,and remaining black while having nerd interest. Rather than feeling they need to become a full on european to fit in somewhere. But overall that entire black nerd demographic is still problematic

 

[Hoodoo Child]

We aren't a monolith, if used in the right context is not c00ning

We've always been perceived as one in the same, which is why "he set black folks back another 100 years" is such a c00nish/common statement I'd hear growing up

WE are individuals, but just because we're individuals that does not mean we aren't pro black

I'm sure as shyt not holding myself accountable for another nikkas fukk shyt because I'm black

Now if you're kekeing around white folks on some c00n shyt, like I'm different from them then its c00ning

Same.

/Thread

 

[BmoreGorilla]

Who's using that phrase with so much frequency that it's an issue? I've seen it perhaps........twice in the years I've been here. Just a very specific phrase to which you've given a negative context. Hivemind and group think is common in the black community because it's common in western society in which we were born and raised unfortunately. In this society you don't know you are different until it's explicitly laid out to you. The black people who you believe highlight or accentuate certain hobbies and behaviors as a way to separate themselves from the general black community aren't aware of any potential separation, schisms, or differences until they are told that their behaviors and activities are outside the so called "norm," usually in the form of being ostracized.

You and a few others did bring up insecurity and I'd like to spin that a bit. Perhaps some of the insecurity are from those whom believe that someone highlighting their "differences" from the "average" black person is some form of c00ning. Maybe they are just, I don't know.........describing what they are into, what interests them. I know of the type of people you are talking about in the OP (well, I hope those are the people) and yes, they are quite annoying but I don't see them in any great numbers to be concerned about them. No different from humble braggarts in my opinion.

This thread just highlights the continuing cold war within the so called "community." Almost any outward expression that goes against the perceived norm is met with skepticism and scorn. Most of these people were told they were different, if not an outright problem, but they can't highlight those differences themselves?

I appreciate this response. Truth be told this is my first experience interacting with black folks who have had such different experiences than me. I prolly was exposed to some in college but this is a little different. I didn’t grow up in a diverse area. Things like video games, wrestling, cartoons etc., were all things that cats around my way did. So for people to say it’s different isn’t really the case

The reason for this thread wasn’t due to people have different ideas and opinions it was becuz of posts like these

Maybe some of us don't want to be associated with hoodrats and deadbeats, similar to white folks not wanting to be associated with rednecks and white trash


Let's have some standard for ourselves

Why are black people the only ones who are expected to accept the trash of their race?

Advocate for black people to be stereotyped brehs

The air of elitism is strong on this site sometimes. Putting down our people due to sociological conditions is something that is a detriment to us. Especially when cats are using the same rhetoric as our oppressors. I get that we are all different but to somehow use that as a way to elevate yourself above the less fortunate is something I don’t condone

 

[BmoreGorilla]

@Joe Chink what’s the reason for the 1 star?

 

[I Really Mean It]

I'm telling you there are people associated with the image of the modern black person that is negative. You can pretend they don't exist and aren't a prominent factor in our representation but any reasonable person will see otherwise

Who's drawing those associations?

 

[GodsPerspective]

People are mad at that because we study patterns here on thecoli. And the very type of people who would defend the "we are not a monolith" are the same types who would have bitterness towards other demographics of the black community they don't identify with,or who they feel rejected them. You know the types,the ones who are always angry at these "thugs" who they believe get all the women. The ones bitter that hood chicks didn't like them growing up because they were too "square" or weirdos.
These people are bitter and insecure about not fitting in to the box of blackness. Which admittedly can be a tight box sometimes, problem with the "we are not a monolith" types are that they historically have went on to take on fully european attributes in every manner. When what they should have done was looked in the mirror and realized that maybe they were out of touch with their blackness/culture and thats why they didn't fit in. Calling someone a nerd,whitewashed,cornball brotha can be a valid criticism. Black people accused of this should look in the mirror instead of taking their ball and going over to the other side. And not only that but spewing hate rhetoric towards other black demographics from the other side.

I will say more black nerds seem to be finding a confidence,and remaining black while having nerd interest. Rather than feeling they need to become a full on european to fit in somewhere. But overall that entire black nerd demographic is still problematic

Well none of that is me

But I appreciate the perspective

Who's drawing those associations?

We all are subconsciously brother

 

[Neuromancer]

Isn't this an individual question?