Is welfare the reason for violence in underprivileged communities?

[Bolzmark]

The ultimate root is broken families, which welfare, along with feminism, was meant to promote. Once you take the father out of the household, you take the discipline out of many of them. Boys are a lot less likely to listen to their moms than dads, especially as they start getting into their teens. At that age, they get to the point where they start scaring their moms and these boys will look for 'male guidance', which leaves an open door for older, predatory males to utilize them as crash dummies and foot soldiers.

I’ve heard this ideology my entire life and it makes me cringe. It’s really a huge shot at women because why it’s really saying is that as long as the government throws a women a few dollars every month they will totally reject the idea of a husband and two parent family. I guess for some it’s true but damm…

 

[CapitalforCapital]

you think killers and robbers get welfare checks every month?

Their baby mama, momma or girlfriend does. But to be honest a lot of black people are homeowners. A lot of them don’t come from as bad as situations as you think. I know plenty of killers and robbers who lived at granny house that she passed down to her kids.

 

[kevm3]

The “broken families” trope is played out. Most of those families have a man in the house it’s just not seen by the statistics because of the guidelines to keep the benefits. In a community where respect is the cornerstone of interaction measures will be taken to any sign of disrespect. That why dudes complain about why women don’t like good men because respect is another form of fear. And kindness is taken for weakness. I say all that to say this in the black community our incentives are intangible things rather than tangible (respect, loyalty, pride, etc). This is due to the fact that the welfare system provides for the basic needs of the impoverished among us and their are no incentives to improve the situation thru legal means.

There is a massive difference between having some 'man in the house' and having an actual 'father' and 'husband' in the house. Some random guy that pops in and out to get sex every now and then when he gets worn out from running the streets but doesn't stay around long because he doesn't want his baby momma to lose her benefits because he's feasting off of them is vastly different than a father who is actually present, paying the majority of the bills, and instilling values and doling out discipline on the daily. The fact that having a man present means that welfare benefits are affected is a huge contributor to the problem. Children, especially boys, need a consistently present man in the house, preferably their father.

 

[CapitalforCapital]

I’ve heard this ideology my entire life and it makes me cringe. It’s really a huge shot at women because why it’s really saying is that as long as the government throws a women a few dollars every month they will totally reject the idea of a husband and two parent family. I guess for some it’s true but damm…

Pretty sure that most black people don’t get married because marriages are expensive. Which is why the marriage rate is going down across the board. Best believe that these women have men in the house. Are the relationships the best, no. But white people don’t have the full house type of life either lol

 

[Treeshaz]

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Don’t you notice that the places with the highest amount of violence correlate with the amount of welfare being spent. Does the old idiom “idle hands are the devil’s workshop” ring true?

Yup noticed the black crime rate only got bigger than the white crime rate after 60s when welfare allowed single motherhood

 

[kevm3]

I’ve heard this ideology my entire life and it makes me cringe. It’s really a huge shot at women because why it’s really saying is that as long as the government throws a women a few dollars every month they will totally reject the idea of a husband and two parent family. I guess for some it’s true but damm…

It's the truth. The vast majority of prisoners come from fatherless homes. The combination of feminism and incentivizing getting men out of the household, as well as limiting the man's ability for economic progress is a huge reason why things are the way they are. It's not 'blaming females'. It's blaming the intentional government policies to create conditions for a school to prison pipeline. They always field test these policies on the black community before rolling it out elsewhere.

 

[CapitalforCapital]

There is a massive difference between having some 'man in the house' and having an actual 'father' and 'husband' in the house. Some random guy that pops in and out to get sex every now and then when he gets worn out from running the streets but doesn't stay around long because he doesn't want his baby momma to lose her benefits because he's feasting off of them is vastly different than a father who is actually present, paying the majority of the bills, and instilling values and doling out discipline on the daily. The fact that having a man present means that welfare benefits are affected is a huge contributor to the problem. Children, especially boys, need a consistently present man in the house, preferably their father.

How many fathers are actual good fathers dude. You’re talking too idealistic most people ain’t shyt. shyt on this site you would think that the white community is the best. Most white people aint shyt in life and never will be. A white woman gets a new man in the house the family is blended. A black women does it and the home is broken. The problems facing the black community are no longer physical but of internalized colonialism.

 

[Treeshaz]

How many fathers are actual good fathers dude. You’re talking too idealistic most people ain’t shyt. shyt on this site you would think that the white community is the best. Most white people aint shyt in life and never will be. A white woman gets a new man in the house the family is blended. A black women does it and the home is broken. The problems facing the black community are no longer physical but of internalized colonialism.

Majority of white crime and opioid epidemic is from single mother raised ppl too

no one idolized white ppl breh

 

[desjardins]

Naw but the same mentality that would result in an individual being on welfare long term in 2022 is the same mentality that would breed an environment where violence and fukkery is normalized.

 

[rabbid]

alot of it stems from mental illness and the predatory nature of hurt people. you caught a body back in 2011 out of self defense but that man's face still haunts you. now you a hoover crip banging on the set whenever you get angry.

 

[CapitalforCapital]

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Yup noticed the black crime rate only got bigger than the white crime rate after 60s when welfare allowed single motherhood

What about the white on white crime rate. Oh I forgot they just call that war.

Majority of white crime is from single mother raised ppl too

Your too simpleminded as you think that ther is such thing as “good parenting”. Most parents ain’t shyt because most adults ain’t shyt. Daddy is more likely to have the money to pay for a lawyer that will get the charges reduced. Not that a man in the house helps. You’re talking race and gender I’m talking economics. People from better economic backgrounds fair better than those from lesser. Single mother, two dads X, two moms , traditional etc. the problem with welfare is that it keeps people poor and dependent and incentives not moving up the economic ladder.

 

[desjardins]

There is a massive difference between having some 'man in the house' and having an actual 'father' and 'husband' in the house. Some random guy that pops in and out to get sex every now and then when he gets worn out from running the streets but doesn't stay around long because he doesn't want his baby momma to lose her benefits because he's feasting off of them is vastly different than a father who is actually present, paying the majority of the bills, and instilling values and doling out discipline on the daily.

Glad someone said it. This narrative that the black family unit is secretly thriving but couples hide it so they can continue to pay $300 for section 8 rent is a crock of shyt

No real man that is worth anything is going have his family on welfare or living in subpar conditions to save a couple bucks a month. These dudes that they are really talking about are bums these single moms rotate in and out of their lives every six months when them dudes need somewhere to stay. If anything those men being around might be a net negative if they are running in the streets or displaying sub par example of what a black man is to the kids in the house

 

[CapitalforCapital]

alot of it stems from mental illness and the predatory nature of hurt people. you caught a body back in 2011 out of self defense but that man's face still haunts you. now you a hoover crip banging on the set whenever you get angry.

Mental illness is a way to stigmatize people stop using that term for black people. A black person who is mentally I’ll doesn’t go to rehab he goes to jail.

 

[CapitalforCapital]

Glad someone said it. This narrative that the black family unit is secretly thriving but couples hide it so they can continue to pay $300 for section 8 rent is a crock of shyt

No real man that is worth anything is going have his family on welfare or living in subpar conditions to save a couple bucks a month. These dudes that they are really talking about are bums these single moms rotate in and out of their lives every six months when them dudes need somewhere to stay. If anything those men being around might be a net negative if they are running in the streets or displaying sub par example of what a black man is to the kids in the house

Oh really? Tell that to the Hasidic Jews. Contrary to popular belief not everyone struggles on welfare or is a bum. Most people on welfare have jobs or hustles to keep money coming in off the books. You nikkas are really too binary with your thinking due to lack of experience. A lot of black entrepreneurs are on welfare such as barbers and hairstylists.

 

[Treeshaz]

The puny welfare system in this country is nothing more than a bandage to deal with the catastrophic effects of why welfare was instituted in the first place. Welfare is not the cause, it's the effect. Violence was in underprivileged communities far before welfare was even instituted.

Funny thing is countries with the most extensive welfare social programs have some of the lowest violence.

No it wasn't poverty was way higher in the 60s yet it way more violent in the mid 1970s-1980s


yall just ignoring wat caused the crime surge fr