Is "What They Do" the most pretentious Hip Hop song of all time?

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What janky website did you get those lyrics from? You must’ve NEVER listened to the actual song a day in your life
I didn't get the lyrics from a website. For whatever reason i didn't remember the right word. Matter of fact, what you're saying doesn't even make sense. How would i vaguely remember the line if i never listened to the song?
 

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A Nas vs Black Thought battle almost happened .

That would be :damn:
But how were they wrong, when the same argument still exists? Perpetrating an image that is the same that everyone else does, based on achieving the quick bag and not loving the culture. Must we not forget the MTV Cribs ish, when rappers were showing houses they clearly didn't live in ..all with the same ish in them

What did they participate in that they were hating on? Black Thought & Malik, more specifically.

The divide was always gonna be there because they money ended up controlling the culture.
That wasn’t Redmans house?
 

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The Roots will drop songs like this in the 90’s then Questlove would spend the 00’s sucking Jiggas dikk

This is why I can't stand Quest tbh. I strongly dislike that hip hop elitist bs because they were hating on the south especially when they were producing perennial artists and groups like Scarface, Goodie Mob, Outkast etc. I love some of the records that were posted in here like Stakes is High but in retrospect when looking at the true DECLINE of the genre from the last few years them guys doing those songs in the heat of a prime era is wild CORNY. If your brand of rap is sooo much better make timeless records and stop complaining. This is exactly why most of those MCs met a major decline for a while during that period.
 

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Weird. Y'all act like the people saying pop Hip Hop was going in the wrong direction were WRONG.

New pop Hip Hop is literally losing market share and is being outsold by other genres and old music.

When we were saying Hip Hop is dying.. the time has arrived.

I'm not just hating either.

shyt that was dope to us in 94 is still dope now. But to even the Contemporary Rap fans, anything over 18 mos old is unlistenable.

I saw something praising Sway Lee for his hits. Black Beatles. I ain't got no type. No Flex Zone (was he a feature on there.. I'll never care enough to check) BUT: have you heard any of these songs since the year they debuted? You certainly wouldn't get away with bumping them right now.

I'd argue that the hype is what made them so huge. Not saying these songs are outright wack, but they got way more praise than they deserved. Which is borne out in their lack of impact over time.

'What they do' is dope as fukc and all the 'Hip Hop is Dead' type tracks have proven to be right.
 

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This was different

This was warranted lol. West Coast/G-Funk Hip Hop really changed the trajectory of Hip Hop and someone needed to say something
Used to love her? Mad cause we fukked her? p*ssy whipped bytch with no common sense.
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Weird. Y'all act like the people saying pop Hip Hop was going in the wrong direction were WRONG.

New pop Hip Hop is literally losing market share and is being outsold by other genres and old music.

When we were saying Hip Hop is dying.. the time has arrived.

I'm not just hating either.

shyt that was dope to us in 94 is still dope now. But to even the Contemporary Rap fans, anything over 18 mos old is unlistenable.

I saw something praising Sway Lee for his hits. Black Beatles. I ain't got no type. No Flex Zone (was he a feature on there.. I'll never care enough to check) BUT: have you heard any of these songs since the year they debuted? You certainly wouldn't get away with bumping them right now.

I'd argue that the hype is what made them so huge. Not saying these songs are outright wack, but they got way more praise than they deserved. Which is borne out in their lack of impact over time.

'What they do' is dope as fukc and all the 'Hip Hop is Dead' type tracks have proven to be right.

We are nearly 28 years removed from "What They Do" and theat song wasn't predicting the future. It was criticizing Hip Hop then. Whatever matket share Hip Hop is losing now or whether you can bump "No Flex Zone" is absolutely irrelevant to the discussion because when The Roots dropped this song, Hip Hop was on its way to being the biggest thing in Popular music.

Regardless of how great of a song "What They Do" is, it was still dissing what was popular at the time. Everybody asking "were they wrong" were huge fans of the music that "What They Do" was dissing and its laughable to leap frog and gloss over that to use that song to dismiss music that came decades later.
 

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We are nearly 28 years removed from "What They Do" and theat song wasn't predicting the future. It was criticizing Hip Hop then. Whatever matket share Hip Hop is losing now or whether you can bump "No Flex Zone" is absolutely irrelevant to the discussion because when The Roots dropped this song, Hip Hop was on its way to being the biggest thing in Popular music.

Regardless of how great of a song "What They Do" is, it was still dissing what was popular at the time. Everybody asking "were they wrong" were huge fans of the music that "What They Do" was dissing and its laughable to leap frog and gloss over that to use that song to dismiss music that came decades later.

The stuff Black Thought considered wack then..

Has grown and blossomed into a forest of wack shyt now.

I love Straight Outta Compton. But I also recognize that that album lead to what we have now. Actual gang bangers making records and getting killed by the score. For entertainment.
 

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It just seems like alot of alternative Hip Hop groups gave off this vibe


I think A Tribe Called Quest and Common might be the only in this genre to put out pure music and never lifted their nose up at other types of Hip Hop


Not gonna lie though, this Roots songs bumps, amazing production :whew: :banderas:

Back when hip hop still had artistic integrity :wow:
Now it really is all contractual and about money making :scusthov:
 

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That song marks everything about our Black community and not in the way you think

The word is Hate

Cause 1 thing nikkas can do better than anybody else is hate on other nikkas.... inherently
 
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