Is wolverine a better fighter than Captain America? ( Marvel rates capt fight skill 6 wolvie 7)

[Luke Cage]

Pre-serum Steve is him at his regular human self. You can't keep moving the goalposts breh, lol. And the reason he's a master of those martial arts is cuz of the serum boosting everything about him, that also being his brain and body's natural learning capacity. If it's all stripped away, that goes his physical capability to even use what he's learned effectively. Let along he'd lack the strength behind anything.

I think you're moving the goalposts here.

my point is. Cap knows martial arts, peter doesn't

 

[Absolut da poet ®]

Cap and it's not even close.....

This ^
And I'd take Cap over Batman strictly hand to hand w/no prep time

And No gadgets

 

[old pig]

for those who can’t read this isn’t a “who would win?” debate

ultimately that’d be wolverine

the OP is just asking who is a better fighter as far as skill

you can see this in boxing/MMA where better fighters occasionally get their ass handed to them by lesser skilled fighters

 

[Makavalli]

The Cap wins this

Logan has more experience fighting and knows more disciplines but his healing factor has made him reckless just jumps right in since he really has not much to worry about

also watching x-men the animated series on disney+ reminded how Logan would rush into things and get bushed for his efforts

if Logan would smarten up He’d be a powerful man

 

[nightwing2016]

I was laughing when I saw that. . .I just looked it up and . . . well shyt.

Catset lost and won at the same damn time

I typically stay away from fights outside the characters main universe. There is no way in hell black cat should be beating up sabertooth, but a Spider-Man book would make since it nerfed him. Sabertooth doesn’t need to see to fight as his sense are more keen then wolverines who is basically a bloodhound. Plus sabertooth doesn’t bit his opponents that is the first time I’ve ever seen that.

this was like when someone told me that squirrel girl beat dr. Doom and I was and then I read the issue and was

 

[Atsym Sknyfs]

I know that wolverines healing factor outpaces caps my at least 10x (fitting, being weapon 1 and 10 respectively) but cap has that Batman plot armor that makes his superhuman feats push the validity of his peak human designation. Wolverine should win on paper....but on actual comic paper for some reason Cap is usually beatin his ass.
...for a more accurate comparison comic heads need to get some panels of fighters both have fought and figure out who had a better showing

The entire Weapon program is an ongoing attempt to replicate Erskine's accident that created Cap. Basically they want a controllable Cap with no conscience who takes orders and doesn't go off the rails.



And this is a waste of time discussion because Cap will forever have plot armour. Realistically you claw off whatever arm is holding his shield and all the reflexes in the world after that won't stop him from getting Vitamix'd.

i saw the panel but i dont fully agree... Wolverines only mutant power technically was his healing factor it didnt come from a serum and i thought the claws where a side effect of the weapon x program.

So let me ask... if weapons 3-9 failed .. i'm assuming 2 was bucky ... did they add the adamantium to logan ONLY cause he had a healing factor already?

edit: nevermind the weapons 3-9 question, i looked it up.

so where did the luke cage stuff come from. i thought it was an offshoot of the weapon's program

edit 2: Weapon VI was led by Dr. Noah Burstein and was responsible for giving Luke Cage his powers.[18]


Weapon Plus - Wikipedia

• Weapon 0[47] - Classified
• Weapon I[47] - Volunteer (Captain America, Project Rebirth)
• Weapon II[47] - A squirrel with Wolverine's Adamantium skeleton, claws, intelligence and healing factor, along with a squirrel's bushy tail, and a visor[48]
• Weapon III - Skinless Man
• Weapon IV - Unknown
• Weapon V- Series of symbiote soldier hybrids developed from the Grendel alien specimen.
• Weapon VI - Unknown
• Weapon VII[47] - Frank Simpson (Nuke, "'Project Homegrown'")
• Weapon VIII - Unknown
• Weapon IX - Deadpool; confirmed in Wolverine & Captain America: Weapon Plus #1
• Weapon X - Wolverine; cloned and in the 23rd attempt, X-23 was made
• Weapon XI - Deadpool (X-Men Origins Wolverine (however, most people choose to forget this))
• Weapon XII - The Huntsman
• Weapon XIII - Fantomex
• Weapon XIV - Stepford Cuckoos
• Weapon XV - Ultimaton
• Weapon XVI - Allgod

edit 3: weapons 1-9 were done on humans or animals .. weapon x was done on mutants

 

[Neuromancer]

Maybe, it can happen in that case, but they never give a great writer a shytty artist.

Steve Dillon wasn't considered shytty when he was alive.

 

[Luke Cage]

Steve Dillon wasn't considered shytty when he was alive.

His art looks weird to me.

 

[Neuromancer]

His art looks weird to me.

He was hired to write gritty shyt. When I interned at Marvel they loved him. Take that as you will.

 

[Khalil's_Black_Excellence]

I think you're moving the goalposts here.

my point is. Cap doesn't knows martial arts, peter doesn't

Not even. You said if they were stripped of their powers. Both of them received powers essentially via injections. Take those away and they are what they were before they juiced. It just is what it is homie.

 

[BXKingPin82]

Being a better fighter is all good for Cap (i guess) but dont act like Wolverine wont fukk his pasty ass up.
And i love Captain America!

But that adamantium and that healing factor done saved Logan-Son so many times.
He aint losing to no damn Steve Rogers.

Im sorry.

 

[Luke Cage]

Not even. You said if they were stripped of their powers. Both of them received powers essentially via injections. Take those away and they are what they were before they juiced. It just is what it is homie.

I don't think taking away their powers will give them amnesia.
So they wouldn't be what they were before they were juiced. They'd be what they are now, without the juice.

Cap would be a skinny guy who is an expert in combat and tactics. Peter would be a skinny guy who is an expert at science.

The fight would essentially be a professional flightwieght boxer versus bill nye.

 

[BXKingPin82]

Oh!
Dont let Wolverine enter berzerker mode.

You seen what he did in "Enemy of the State!"

 

[parallax]

I think you're moving the goalposts here.

my point is. Cap knows martial arts, peter doesn't

yes he does. he knows the way of the spider

 

[Luke Cage]

yes he does. he knows the way of the spider

that's some new stuff, i read the comics back in the 90s. If they turned him into some martial artist since then my point is moot. But going off classic spiderman and cap. He doesn't have any fighting styles that he learned from shang chi.