Isiah Thomas GOES OFF on this current NBA era

[Lord_Chief_Rocka]

Scottie Pippen
Steve Kerr
Charles Oakley
Ron Harper
Toni Kukoc
Horace Grant
Luc Longley
John paxson
Dennis Rodman

Atleast half of them are hall of famers

2 of them are
And Rodman is in the HoF for essentially being the greatest role player ever.

Nobody's trying to build around Dennis Rodman

 

[Lord_Chief_Rocka]

Didn't 225lb James Worthy light the Bad Boy Pistons up for 22-7-4 on 49% shooting and win Finals MVP? Then came back for 26-4-4 on 48% shooting in the Finals against them the next year? But where they couldn't stop Worthy, they'd stop Lebron because...?

215lb Jerome Kersey put up 19 and 7 on 47% shooting the year after that, and he probably wasn't as good as 11th-grade Lebron.

200lb Chris Mullin at SF popping off for 26, 27, 37, 26, 21, 26, 33, 32 in his eight games against the Bad Boys from 1989 to 1993.

230lb Tom chambers got 26, 24, 18, 27, 27, 25, 20 in seven straight games against the Pistons in 1988-1991.

226lb Dominique Wilkins gets thrown like in that video, still gets 38, 32, and 29 in three straight games in 1991.

Old-ass 205lb Bernard King hung 26, 30, and 24 on them in three straight games in 1990-91. Back in 1988 when he was younger he put 37 on them once.



I could keep going, the skinny frail-ass small forwards of the 1980s and early 1990s stayed putting up numbers on the Bad Boy Pistons, but they'd shut down Lebron because...punches?

So great players had some great games

 

[Lord_Chief_Rocka]

Klay scoring that many points with 9 dribbles is kinda awesome and wack at the same time

 

[Lord_Chief_Rocka]

pippen and rodman weren't great now

MJ personal took Pippen under his wing and developed him

Rodman is not someone you build around. He might have been out of the league quick if MJ didn't save him

 

[Buckeye Fever]

No need to argue with these pussies. They would probably want a defender to be called for a foul just for bein' musty

 

[Lord_Chief_Rocka]

I didnt say he was on the championship teams now did i?

nikkas said all of jordans teammates were scrubs and oak aint no scrub

So maybe you oughtta take your own advice and leave the basketball discussion to the adults bytch.

Who said they were scrubs?

I said that they have been overrated and relatively to other championship teams they were not as talented player for player

 

[SoulController]

Kelly Tripuka was givin out buckets like that?

 

[Lord_Chief_Rocka]

He's wrong IMO. Players get more open shots because there are better shooters and more floor spacing, player movement and ball movement. Steve Smith says send a double, but that's how a lot of teams get burnt. If you double someone on a good passing team, they're going to pick you apart and get even easier looks. He calls big men soft but I feel there some good big men out there but they can only do so much when their PF has to play out at the 3 pt line against a stretch 4, or 5. He complains about guys like Westbrook being able to get rebounds but he's a freak of nature. He's usually the most athletic guy on the court and has the best motor. Basically he wants to bring back being able to foul guys since they can't move their feet fast enough to stay in front. They just need to accept the 3ball is a big part of the game and if a team has shooters the defense is going to have a lot of driving lanes to expose.

So now the reason teams get so many open 3s is because the offenses are better but in the 80s it was because of bad defense

 

[superunknown23]

It's special because he didn't shoot 3s. He just would beast dudes in the paint

Crazy MJ stat:
He averaged 37pts in a season despite making only 12 threes-pointers!

 

[El Coupeacabra]

So great players had some great games

Why didn't the Pistons just jump them in the middle of the court like they'd do Lebron if he played in the 80's?

 

[Optimus Prime]

did I miss something in what Zeke was saying? He didn't say no one was having individual monster games back then. He was saying it just wasn't that easy as it is today. So he's not saying Klay or Steph wouldn't go off back then, but he is saying that he would have used all his fouls against them and got help from Joe D...

 

[Originalman]

Crazy MJ stat:
He averaged 37pts in a season despite making only 12 threes-pointers!

Yeah dudes don't understand that the 3 was looked at as a bad shot back then and wasn't considered a true weapon. Players and caoches thought of it was a low percentage shot and if you shot it it had to be in the flow of the offense.

Now as days dudes shoot 3s on a 3-1 break. Or shoot it with 18 seconds left in the shot clock.

The influence of the college game shooting threes (and the high volume of threes) began to influence the pros in later years IMO.

But we all know college and high school always eventually influences the pro leagues. Just look at spread offenses going from high school to college to the pros. Or heavy leaning on the passing game.

 

[Monoblock]

No lies were told

 

[Originalman]

Kelly Tripuka was givin out buckets like that?

Yep adrian dantley too and that brotha didn't even shoot 3s either.

 

[Manuel Hot Pepper Lopez]

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this video
I'm dying at the Mahorn butt check at 0:29 and Edwards slapping a random Bulls white man at 2:20

I hated those Pistons as a kid, but I do miss teams like them along with the 90's Knicks and Pacers now. It would be nice if teams had at least a portion of that type of defensive intensity today, individually there's like 6 players in the league[