Islam as a black man is a joke :yeshrug:

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Nope. Our ancestors were born Muslim, like every child.

Side note: Before Islam came to Somalia my ancestors believed in a deity called Waaq, still monotheistic. What I have learnt of other East African tribes is that they also believed in One God and that is the foundation of Islam.



The trans-Saharan gold trade probably. Before finding gold in America, West Africa was the main source for Europeans and the Middle East

C'mon now..............:mjpls:
spiritual leaders of Africa? Mohammad was a Arab/Saudi lol
:usure:All I see in this post^^ is that... but the time Islam was created - Africans had already been taken over and controlled by the empires of 'others'. I see you acknowledging that these 'other' kingdoms oppressed the AFricans.... Forced them to completely! abandon their African spiritual roots, and tried to take away their unity As Africans.
I also see you saying that Arab culture was originally invented by blacks and in Arabia the darkest people were called pure Arabs. Unless you're saying that arab is a race:usure: [/QUOTE]

nikka the Arab culture came from Ishmael and thats not debatable. Ishmael is the progenitor of the Arab race not Negroes

:patrice:I'm not sure what else you copy and paste Wikipedia cac quote is trying to say. :leostare: Are you trying to say that most of the black kingdoms that brehs hype up and all of the ones that took over other continents for hundreds of years were black muslims - uniting thousands of african tribes under 1 force of black kings?

:stopitslime:Or are you trying to say some hebrew fukkboy shyt:mjlol:[/QUOTE]


I'm trying to say the only reason why the muslim race is all over Africa is by force of Muslims. And The Arabs was forcing blacks into slavery in Africa way before the Atlantic Slave trade

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This is never acknowledged for some strange reason.....:mjpls:
 

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Islam began in Arabia and from 633AD until the late 10th century it was spread after Arab armies began overtaking Christian lands from Syria to North Africa and Spain

So from what I've read they made deals with Christian leadership. Idk y people think that they were converting atheist and animal worshipers n shyt. For the Most part is was people who were already Forced converted to Christianity!

And speaking on Forced conversions..

Most of the forced conversions usually didn't happen with north africa and arabia.... it happened in the Buddist Lands and Hindu lands in south east Asia ---- BUT only when those groups wanted to go to war. It's just what happens.

BUT

By 2030 - THERE WILL BE 8 BILLION Muslims in the world...
IT IS the fastest growing religion. This makes some people upset, but if we know that over 98% of these people will be peaceful.. then Y is this a horrible thing??

Let's see what some experts say:


John L. Esposito, a scholar on the subject of Islam in "The Oxford History of Islam" states that the spread of Islam "was often peaceful and sometimes even received favourably by Christians

Conference on religion at Yale University's The MacMillan Center Initiative on Religion, Politics, and Society which hosted a speech from Hugh Kennedy, he stated forced conversions played little part in the history of the spread of the faith

80% of Muslims live outside the Arab World.
 

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Well if that's what you believe that's what you believe, but Sunni Islam is based on Qur'an AND Sunnah ie; sound hadith. If you're an Ahmadi, Ismaili, or whatever other sect claiming Islam that's a different story.

"closer to 15" is still seen as disgusting in today's society, so what's the point? Ayesha could have been 35 when she married the Prophet, Islam haters will still hate Islam no matter what. So who cares?


i feel you breh
 

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fix the quotes on ur post because it looks stupid as fukk.

and that video has been acknowledged.. actually i'm one of the first people to even start putting videos up like that in KTL on SOHH... so :stopitslime:

If you really have an issue with what's going on in the world in regards to slavery and sex slavery... Maybe focus on the real causes instead of NOT really giving a flying fukk about those kids who you share Zero identity with --- and using their plight as an excuse to post dumb ass videos to diss islam.


:scust: Disgusting. :scust:
 

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Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, Ghengas Khan, Hitler’s, America, UK, Japan, Lenin’s Bolsheviks, Random places in africa.

A quarter of a million people were killed in the Vendée (out of a population of roughly 800,000) :wow:when a peasant rebellion against the French Revolution was put down by republican armies in 1794. And some 17,000 men, women, and children were guillotined in the purge that ended in July that year, including the man who had designed the new revolutionary calendar.

thirty year war (1618-1648) protestants vs catholics. average estimated death toll - 7.25 million
french religious wars (1562-1598) protestants vs catholitcs. average estimated death toll - 3 million
second sudanese civil war (1983-2005) christians vs muslims - aedt - 1.5 million
crusades - average death toll - 1.5 million

and thats just a couple wars. what about the massacres that have happened in all that time? what about all the times that whites justified their treatments of africans and native americans by calling them "godless savages". hitler trying to wipe out an entire religion. 9/11. gaza. salem witch hunts. roman persecution of christians. the inquisition. the priests that get away with molesting kids. aztec human sacrifices. jihadists. jonestown. waco, texas. i could literally go on and on.

i mean yea shyt happens that isnt religiously motivated but religion has been behind some of the nastiest shyt in history. something thats advertised as loving and caring.
 

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fix the quotes on ur post because it looks stupid as fukk.

and that video has been acknowledged.. actually i'm one of the first people to even start putting videos up like that in KTL on SOHH... so :stopitslime:

If you really have an issue with what's going on in the world in regards to slavery and sex slavery... Maybe focus on the real causes instead of NOT really giving a flying fukk about those kids who you share Zero identity with --- and using their plight as an excuse to post dumb ass videos to diss islam.


:scust: Disgusting. :scust:

I'm not even speaking to the video specifically breh......:comeon:
 

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By 1800, some 500,000 Africans arrived in what became the United States. Historians estimate that between 15 to 30 percent of all enslaved African men, and less than 15 percent of the enslaved African women, were Muslims. These enslaved Muslims stood out from their compatriots because of their "resistance, determination and education"

Historical records indicate many enslaved Muslims conversed in the Arabic language.
Some even composed literature (such as autobiographies) and commentaries on the Quran.[48] Some newly arrived Muslim slaves assembled for communal salat (prayers). Some were provided a private praying area by their owner. The two best documented Muslim slaves were Ayuba Suleiman Diallo and Omar Ibn Said. Suleiman was brought to America in 1731 and returned to Africa in 1734.[45] Like many Muslim slaves, he often encountered impediments when attempting to perform religious rituals and was eventually allotted a private location for prayer by his master.:lupe:


Omar converted to Christianity in 1820, an episode widely used throughout the South to "prove" the benevolence of slavery. However, some scholars believe he continued to be a practicing Muslim, based on dedications to Muhammad written in his Bible

I think the percentages were probably higher, but you know.. cac stats. But it's interesting that Islam was the one thing that has been a 'threat' to cacs and people Western oppressors in regards to black people from the Christian Crusades, to the slave trade , to now.
 

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“It is reported from Aisha that she said: The Prophet entered into marriage with me when I was a girl of six … and at the time [of joining his household] I was a girl of nine years of age.”

“Khadija died three years before the Prophet departed to Medina. He stayed [alone] for two years or so. He married Aisha when she was a girl of six years of age, and he consummated that marriage when she was nine years old.

that's from Bukhari man, not some random hadith with no basis. There's no skirting around the issue, it is what it is.
Do you know the methodology when verifying an hadiths authenticity let me explain it, when you come across a hadith you first go the Qur'an and retrieve all the verses relating to that hadith then you compare it to the Qur'an if it contradicts to the Qur'an then it is false or untrustworthy. There are a lot of scholars in the Islamic world that want certain hadiths from bukhari to be removed because it is contradicting to the Qur'an. For example in the Qur'an states that "you can only marry a girl once she reaches puberty(menstrual cycle begins)" so therefore why would prophet Muhammad (pbuh) marry a girl who is 6 years old even though it is forbidden in Islam? its obvious that the hadith is fabricated.
 

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The history of Africa before Europeans learnt that you should wash your hands after taking a dump

In Africa and particularly West Africa there was a strong Muslim community, Mansa Musa from present day Mali, the richest man on earth to date (worth $400 billion in today's money), was a Muslim. The thriving communities were Muslim, not all obviously but if you are in the Americas there is a strong possibility that your ancestors were Muslim.

Come back brothers and sisters :blessed:



i could of sworn it was control of Saharan trade routes more so than than Mansu falling dropping to his knees,tooting his booty up in the air while preying to Allah akbar him in arab heaven is why his and a few other West African kingdoms were successful...West African civilizations of that era prospered in spite of Islam not cause of it. no doubt thrived long before Islam...truth be told letting the Eurasian vagabonds dupe them them into,abandoning their own culture to worship an sand cac god was the beginning of their downfall.

why would blacks want to go back to being slave caste to stinky arabs?:what:
 

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is this how you wasted your second post ?

talking about the made up ideas and crazy actions of a few white people in the mid east?

educate yourself before making another post.


okay elaborate...explain why what i say was inaccurate:usure:
 

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By 1800, some 500,000 Africans arrived in what became the United States. Historians estimate that between 15 to 30 percent of all enslaved African men, and less than 15 percent of the enslaved African women, were Muslims. These enslaved Muslims stood out from their compatriots because of their "resistance, determination and education"

Historical records indicate many enslaved Muslims conversed in the Arabic language.
Some even composed literature (such as autobiographies) and commentaries on the Quran.[48] Some newly arrived Muslim slaves assembled for communal salat (prayers). Some were provided a private praying area by their owner. The two best documented Muslim slaves were Ayuba Suleiman Diallo and Omar Ibn Said. Suleiman was brought to America in 1731 and returned to Africa in 1734.[45] Like many Muslim slaves, he often encountered impediments when attempting to perform religious rituals and was eventually allotted a private location for prayer by his master.:lupe:


Those African slave's forefathers were force for convert to islam during The Abbasids (750-1258)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spread_of_Islam


The expansion of the Arab Empire in the first centuries after the Islamic prophet Muhammad's death soon established Muslim dynasties in North Africa, West Africa, to the Middle East, Somalia and in Iran.


This was the time of the Abbasid Dynasty (750-1258), the second great dynasty with the rulers carrying the title of 'Caliph'.

Expansion ceased and the central disciplines of Islamic philosophy, theology, law and mysticism became more widespread and the gradual conversions of the populations within the empire occurred. Significant conversions also occurred beyond the extents of the empire such as that of the Turkic tribes in Central Asia and peoples living in regions south of the Sahara in Africa through contact with Muslim traders active in the area and Sufi orders. In Africa it spread along three routes, across the Sahara via trading towns such as Timbuktu, up the Nile Valley through the Sudan up to Uganda and across the Red Sea and down East Africa through settlements such as Mombasa and Zanzibar. These initial conversions were of a flexible nature and only later were the societies forcibly purged of their traditional influences.[7]
 

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So posters can talk shyt about black women all day and hype up pawgs all day and not be c00ns.
non black poster can talk shyt about black people all day and hop into every black thread.. and that's aight

Well, here are some people I guess are quintessential c00ns then






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