ISO Bron is the Only reason the Cavs are in this Series

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It has also contributed to their offensive struggles in OT in game 1 and late in the 4th in game 2. shyt is so stagnant and if Bron isn't creating they aren't getting anything. If this nikka can got out there and play 50 minutes every night and be effective then more power to him. However, that just doesn't seem realistic. Dude looked tired throughout the second half the other night. They are gonna have to diversify and find other ways to score if they are really serious about winning this series.

It's honestly not much more they can do Breh.

When GS goes small they have to take Masgov out.

Moving the ball too much and risk TURNOVERS wich GS will kill you in transition with.

I agree with OP...This is the ONLY way they stay in the series. It's like a college football team that runs the Flexbone offense, just POUND POUND POUND on offense while running out the clock and play LOCK DOWN DEFENSE..

Trying to speed up or play too cute will set off a chain reaction that will have the Cavs down by double digits that they CAN'T get out of.
 
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It's the Cavs defense why they are in this series not iso Bron. Lebron is converting his iso opportunities at a horrible rate, especially last game. But of course delusional lebron stans want to give lebron all the credit.


This is true.I even heard a guy on the radio say Bron should get the series MVP... even if the Cavs lose.

If they can win the series with Bron having a bunch of struggle games, it'll probably be the most astonishing shyt I've ever seen on a basketball court.

And it's not because Bron played so "amazing", but because they will have knocked off a superior team playing ugly/muddled ball like that.

I mean, it's baffling to me.


I get that Bron is reading the game, picking his spots, and displaying a high level of basketball intelligence out there, but his execution has looked a lil:flabbynsick:


His execution is mediocre, but it's high volume, so his scoring average is:krs:, and it's great because it's the only way the Cavs can stay in the game and/or have a chance to win:mindblown:

It's just some paradoxical shyt, man
 

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This is early 2000's ball. It didn't work against the Spurs last year. It worked against the Hawks and BUlls because those teams have offensive droughts. It only works at all because the Cavs can get offensive rebounds like crazy.

It's too late to change the system now, but Lebron can't seriously want to play this way for the next few seasons. Iso-Bron is the reason the cavs always lose leads late. Maybe there's no choice now that Kyrie and Love are out, but Bron was doing this the entire season.

This is coming from a Lebron fan
 

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This is early 2000's ball. It didn't work against the Spurs last year. It worked against the Hawks and BUlls because those teams have offensive droughts. It only works at all because the Cavs can get offensive rebounds like crazy.

It's too late to change the system now, but Lebron can't seriously want to play this way for the next few seasons. Iso-Bron is the reason the cavs always lose leads late. Maybe there's no choice now that Kyrie and Love are out, but Bron was doing this the entire season.

This is coming from a Lebron fan



Think early season was bron just not trusting blatt, they got more movement going during the last part of the season.
 

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You can play stellar defense all you want, but if you aren't getting buckets, you aren't going to win. Just ask Memphis the past 5 years.

Lebron is creating buckets, not only from himself, but for his other brothers on the squad.I read some stat that said how Bron had assisted or scored on nearly 70% of the teams FGs :ohhh:. Being that one shot could've saved game 1, I'd say its working. While I'm sure its taxing on Lebrons body and I'm sure he would not want to play like this in the future, its working fam:gladbron:
 

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You can play stellar defense all you want, but if you aren't getting buckets, you aren't going to win. Just ask Memphis the past 5 years.

Lebron is creating buckets, not only from himself, but for his other brothers on the squad.I read some stat that said how Bron had assisted or scored on nearly 70% of the teams FGs :ohhh:. Being that one shot could've saved game 1, I'd say its working. While I'm sure its taxing on Lebrons body and I'm sure he would not want to play like this in the future, its working fam:gladbron:



These haters dont hear you cuz :noah:
 

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These haters dont hear you cuz :noah:


Again, I think Lebron is the second greatest perimeter player of all time and have been a fan from day one. But Iso-Bron can't work long term. They'll gut through this series, win or lose, but they better develop an offense next year.
 

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This is early 2000's ball. It didn't work against the Spurs last year. It worked against the Hawks and BUlls because those teams have offensive droughts. It only works at all because the Cavs can get offensive rebounds like crazy.

It's too late to change the system now, but Lebron can't seriously want to play this way for the next few seasons. Iso-Bron is the reason the cavs always lose leads late. Maybe there's no choice now that Kyrie and Love are out, but Bron was doing this the entire season.

This is coming from a Lebron fan

No way they play this style of Ball if both Love and Kyrie are Healthy.( maybe they do actually)

They actually moved the Ball well in the ATL series.

But GS is a different monster and STYLES MAKE FIGHTS.

It ain't pretty to look at but if they tried to run with GS right now they get BLOWN OUT every game.

David Blatt has intentionally tried to slow the game down and take away possessions from GS since the beginning of this series and it has been effective.

FOr how long IDK cause the cavs are not deep and especially Bron will probably wear down as the series goes on.
 

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No way they play this style of Ball if both Love and Kyrie are Healthy.

They actually moved the Ball well in the ATL series.

But GS is a different monster and STYLES MAKE FIGHTS.

It ain't pretty to look at but if they tried to run with GS right now they get BLOWN OUT every game.

David Blatt has intentionally tried to slow the game down and take away possessions from GS since the beginning of this series and it has been effective.

FOr how long IDK cause the cavs are not deep and especially Bron will probably wear down as the series goes on.

IN game 1 vs the Hawks, the Cavs had a big lead late, and then Lebron kept getting turnovers and missing because the Hawks knew what he was going to do. The Cavs keep losing big leads because of IsoBron. It bit them in the ass in game 1 this series, and almost buried them game 2.

As great as Lebron is, he's predictable and it allows strong defenses to disrupt him late in games.
 

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IN game 1 vs the Hawks, the Cavs had a big lead late, and then Lebron kept getting turnovers and missing because the Hawks knew what he was going to do. The Cavs keep losing big leads because of IsoBron. It bit them in the ass in game 1 this series, and almost buried them game 2.

As great as Lebron is, he's predictable and it allows strong defenses to disrupt him late in games.

I agree with you on game 1 of the Hawks series. That was wack and he acknowledged it

By Games 3 and 4 the Cavs had great ball movement against the Hawks wich was a good thing.

You can't compare any of that to THIS series though.

Apples to oranges breh

Iso Bron is the reason they played TWO good games against GS. Of course it looks frustrating and predictable at times but have seen how many mental mistakes JR makes with the ball in his hands a lot? GS FEASTs of the turnovers that the Cavs would create if they got pass happy.

What else are you suggesting they do?
 

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It's honestly not much more they can do Breh.

When GS goes small they have to take Masgov out.

Moving the ball too much and risk TURNOVERS wich GS will kill you in transition with.

I agree with OP...This is the ONLY way they stay in the series. It's like a college football team that runs the Flexbone offense, just POUND POUND POUND on offense while running out the clock and play LOCK DOWN DEFENSE..

Trying to speed up or play too cute will set off a chain reaction that will have the Cavs down by double digits that they CAN'T get out of.

Who said anything about speeding up or moving the ball excessively? There is a pretty large gap between Bron backing a nikka down with everybody standing there with their hands on their hips and trying to imitate GS or SA. They can keep running the offense through Bron on the block but they don't have to be so predictable and stagnant that you got three nikkas waiting on him when he makes his move. That's exactly what happened in OT of game 1 and the 4th qtr of game 4 and consequently GS went on run both times.
 

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Who said anything about speeding up or moving the ball excessively? There is a pretty large gap between Bron backing a nikka down with everybody standing there with their hands on their hips and trying to imitate GS or SA. They can keep running the offense through Bron on the block but they don't have to be so predictable and stagnant that you got three nikkas waiting on him when he makes his move. That's exactly what happened in OT of game 1 and the 4th qtr of game 4 and consequently GS went on run both times.
the best shot from JR,Shump, ect IS after 3 people have collapsed on Bron.
you seriously want Jr handling the ball with his decison making? Delly is my man but he can barely dribble.
the list goes on.
everybody keeps dissing bron ISO but nobody has yet to suggest any alternative. What plays should they run when Mosgov isn't on the floor?
 
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