Israel being Israel yet again

Black Nate Grey

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You're an incredibly dull and short sighted individual.

Hamas doesn't use people as human shields. Its the democratically elected government of an extremely dense urban area.

Israel is not trying to strike "hamas"; it aims at the physical, social and moral infrastructure of hamas which is delivered to its beleaguered population.

Sometimes i wonder if you nikkaz lack a brain, a heart or just a functioning set of eyes
And you are clearly illiterate yourself, I said this was contingent on Israel attacking military targets.

If Hamas is the head of an extremely dense urban area, then why the fukk would they be launching military attacks at a hostile greater military power from said dense urban areas and expect a different outcome? Even if their intention is not to use the civilian population as a shield (you did a poor job convincing me), the outcomes of their actions ensures they are.
Especially since it's logical to expect retaliation towards said military targets that are firing rockets towards your cities, as Israel did.


Well, imagine it this way (and someone correct me if my analogy is way off... I'm an idiot who knows next to nothing about this conflict):

Imagine that the U.S. government decided that the deeds of black homeowners were no longer binding because... well, we're not white... and started systematically displacing us from our homes over the course of several decades. And during that time, black people tried implementing different strategies to stop this behavior, and get the state to recognize our civil rights.... from demonstrating on a grassroots level to meeting with political leaders to reach a peaceful resolution to outright violence. And as the years go by, we nominate and support figures with more and more radical ideas on how to get the government to comply with our demands -- let's say it's some kind of extreme BLM offshoot.

Personally, I find it very hard to criticize the decisions of people frustrated by such a blatant second-class citizenship. Pointing out who shot rockets first kind of poisons the well when you consider why this conflict exists in the first place.

I empathize with that. Israel's illegal expansion of territory and settlements are, well, straight up illegal.

You are leaving out some very important history however. Prior to this, there have been various negotiations in between conflicts and wars.
There have been efforts to reach a peaceful resolution. IMO Palestine should have just accepted the terms here: 2000 Camp David Summit - Wikipedia

Because now, every year they lose more and more leverage and Israel expands more and more.

Pointing out who shot the rockets first in this case is important to get the facts right. Shooting fukking rockets at civilians is a huge escalation is hostilities, beyond what happened in the mosque and the evictions. It's easier to drum up international support and sympathy when you aren't striking first at civilians with rockets, that is a big deal. Who shot first is very important but I can see where you are coming from.
 

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Who are Palestinians ally's? It's like America has the middle east shook dont here about none of them Arab countries taking up for them ever.

I dont know but I think the first country to move to fixing this issue and telling Israel to fall back will look good in the light and could easily make America lose influence
 

NkrumahWasRight Is Wrong

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Balfour agreement i believe

Its so wild how a country can promise a piece of land that they dont own to another group of people that also dont own that land using only one group of people's religious beliefs, as if only their religious beliefs are legitimate

Balfour declaration iirc

Wrote up well before ww2
 

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Haggai 2:23

23 In that day, saith the Lord of hosts, will I take thee, O Zerubbabel, my servant, the son of Shealtiel, saith the Lord, and will make thee as a signet: for I have chosen thee, saith the Lord of hosts.

Zerubbabel - Wikipedia
 

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The islamic countries but they’re not going to intervene because of the west. Palenstine will continue to shrink until it no longer exists.
Sooner or later they’ll step in and if west countries do get involved backing Israel don’t be shocked if China and Russia waiting in the cut and that’s when it’ll get spooky :sadcam:
 
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