Israel being Israel yet again

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So called “Ethnically cleansing” to bring “end times are your words/interpretation. Nobody is thinking like that :mjlol:

I think world powers just don’t wanna get involved. They aren’t compliant just indifferent because

1.it’s clearly a pointless war/both sides are wrong and too stubborn to agree on peace. It’s been happening over and over

2. The root of the conflict it is based on religion: Judaism and their God, a POV which supports Israel or the “Jewish” people ultimately and other nations realize this..... they just can’t say it. Religion can’t be part of politics

3. Still, Palestinian people only argument for the land is if historically the Jewish people of the Bible and kingdom of Israel from thousands of years ago didn’t exist and if that’s true THERES NO ISLAM as Judaism and the Bible is the foundation Muslims believe in and depend on.

It’s a contradiction. Any non biased Muslim should be pro Israel and recognize the land being theirs first and wouldn’t mind living with them in a Jewish state in peace.

4. There can’t be 2 “holy land’s” ideally so there will always be conflict from a religious point of view.

5. because of the Holocaust, Jews/Israel state will always have the UN and other nations/peoples support (not because they are right at what they’re doing) simply because they are living in a region surrounding by people and countries with leaders/organizations many of which who still hate them.

why do you think they need an “iron dome” as protection in the first place :manny:

I’d like to think the leaders of world powers understand the situation even better than I do.
dont worry that shouldnt be too hard for them :ehh:
 

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So called “Ethnically cleansing” to bring “end times are your words/interpretation. Nobody is thinking like that :mjlol:

I think world powers just don’t wanna get involved. They aren’t compliant just indifferent because

1.it’s clearly a pointless war/both sides are wrong and too stubborn to agree on peace. It’s been happening over and over

2. The root of the conflict it is based on religion: Judaism and their God, a POV which supports Israel or the “Jewish” people ultimately and other nations realize this..... they just can’t say it. Religion can’t be part of politics

3. Still, Palestinian people only argument for the land is if historically the Jewish people of the Bible and kingdom of Israel from thousands of years ago didn’t exist and if that’s true THERES NO ISLAM as Judaism and the Bible is the foundation Muslims believe in and depend on.

It’s a contradiction. Any non biased Muslim should be pro Israel and recognize the land being theirs first and wouldn’t mind living with them in a Jewish state in peace.

4. There can’t be 2 “holy land’s” ideally so there will always be conflict from a religious point of view.

5. because of the Holocaust, Jews/Israel state will always have the UN and other nations/peoples support (not because they are right at what they’re doing) simply because they are living in a region surrounding by people and countries with leaders/organizations many of which who still hate them.

why do you think they need an “iron dome” as protection in the first place :manny:

I’d like to think the leaders of world powers understand the situation even better than I do.
Do you know what you're talking about breh?
 

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So called “Ethnically cleansing” to bring “end times are your words/interpretation. Nobody is thinking like that :mjlol:

I think world powers just don’t wanna get involved. They aren’t compliant just indifferent because

1.it’s clearly a pointless war/both sides are wrong and too stubborn to agree on peace. It’s been happening over and over

2. The root of the conflict it is based on religion: Judaism and their God, a POV which supports Israel or the “Jewish” people ultimately and other nations realize this..... they just can’t say it. Religion can’t be part of politics

3. Still, Palestinian people only argument for the land is if historically the Jewish people of the Bible and kingdom of Israel from thousands of years ago didn’t exist and if that’s true THERES NO ISLAM as Judaism and the Bible is the foundation Muslims believe in and depend on.

It’s a contradiction. Any non biased Muslim should be pro Israel and recognize the land being theirs first and wouldn’t mind living with them in a Jewish state in peace.

4. There can’t be 2 “holy land’s” ideally so there will always be conflict from a religious point of view.

5. because of the Holocaust, Jews/Israel state will always have the UN and other nations/peoples support (not because they are right at what they’re doing) simply because they are living in a region surrounding by people and countries with leaders/organizations many of which who still hate them.

why do you think they need an “iron dome” as protection in the first place :manny:

I’d like to think the leaders of world powers understand the situation even better than I do.
While some of what you said is true, you’re insane if you don’t think that the religious aspects play a huge role here. Judeo-Christianity plays a large role in the foundation of the western power structures and still controls the majority of both sides of the political spectrums.

There has to be something that explains the sheepishness from both sides of the isle when it comes to Israel.
 

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While some of what you said is true, you’re insane if you don’t think that the religious aspects play a huge role here. Judeo-Christianity plays a large role in the foundation of the western power structures and still controls the majority of both sides of the political spectrums.

There has to be something that explains the sheepishness from both sides of the isle when it comes to Israel.

I’m saying religion obviously play a huge role but nobody can admit it publicly or even play the religious angle

because there’s no “right/wrong” when it comes to each sides religious beliefs.

But logically leaders they know the huge contradictions within these religions is why the conflict won’t end

Like I said in my previous post: two conflicting religions/cultures cannot claim ownership of the same “holy land” and expect no conflict

Jews and Muslims claiming the same God is problematic enough:manny:

It’s too complicated so they don’t bother getting involved.

if you take religion out the equation it’s simple

2 sides are at War in one land. One is way more powerful and winning. But it’s a war both signed up for so it is what it is.....

From the outside looking in can anyone get mad at Israel for winning the war currently?

it’s not like they’re a bigger bully picking on Palestinians

While I can respect the Palestinian will to fight back (against what’s morally wrong) in a battle they can’t win, they should be the main ones pursing peace

I blame the Palestinian “leaders” who put the people in this situation as much as I blame the Israel for what they are doing
 

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Hell nah breh out his damn mind talking bout muslims should live along side Jews in Israel they fukking hate each other:mjlol:. Their fighting right now, this fight is literally the Jews vs the muslims :dead:

And why do they “hate each other”?

excatly my point as to why world powers don’t wanna get involved

and this is why the conflict has lasted so long and keeps going
 

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So called “Ethnically cleansing” to bring “end times are your words/interpretation. Nobody is thinking like that :mjlol:

I think world powers just don’t wanna get involved. They aren’t compliant just indifferent because

1.it’s clearly a pointless war/both sides are wrong and too stubborn to agree on peace. It’s been happening over and over

2. The root of the conflict it is based on religion: Judaism and their God, a POV which supports Israel or the “Jewish” people ultimately and other nations realize this..... they just can’t say it. Religion can’t be part of politics

3. Still, Palestinian people only argument for the land is if historically the Jewish people of the Bible and kingdom of Israel from thousands of years ago didn’t exist and if that’s true THERES NO ISLAM as Judaism and the Bible is the foundation Muslims believe in and depend on.

It’s a contradiction. Any non biased Muslim should be pro Israel and recognize the land being theirs first and wouldn’t mind living with them in a Jewish state in peace.

4. There can’t be 2 “holy land’s” ideally so there will always be conflict from a religious point of view.

5. because of the Holocaust, Jews/Israel state will always have the UN and other nations/peoples support (not because they are right at what they’re doing) simply because they are living in a region surrounding by people and countries with leaders/organizations many of which who still hate them.

why do you think they need an “iron dome” as protection in the first place :manny:

I’d like to think the leaders of world powers understand the situation even better than I do.
:mindblown:

1. When did it become pointless for occupied people to fight for their rights and fight against colonialism? :rudy:

2. The root of the conflict is colonialism. Imagine the reason for cacs colonizing Africa was that they originated from Africa. That is what's happening in Palestine. :unimpressed:

3. No one says that you're just making stuff up at this point:pachaha:
Maybe their actual argument was that they've lived there for thousands of years and that random white people are coming into their homes claiming to be some ancient group of people who were brown and black. :jbhmm:
Don't even try and say, "but they're Arabs". At that point, I won't even respond to you if you're that ignorant. :comeon:

4. Conflict over Jerusalem or holy sites ended hundreds of years ago until cacs started to colonize the region.

5. Most countries in the world don't support them. Only cacs do. Everyone else sees the blatant colonialism and apartheid.
The UN considers it an Apartheid state. Human Rights Watch just recently did a deep investigation and came to the same conclusion. :stopitslime:
 

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:mindblown:

1. When did it become pointless for occupied people to fight for their rights and fight against colonialism? :rudy:

2. The root of the conflict is colonialism. Imagine the reason for cacs colonizing Africa was that they originated from Africa. That is what's happening in Palestine. :unimpressed:

3. No one says that you're just making stuff up at this point:pachaha:
Maybe their actual argument was that they've lived there for thousands of years and that random white people are coming into their homes claiming to be some ancient group of people who were brown and black. :jbhmm:
Don't even try and say, "but they're Arabs". At that point, I won't even respond to you if you're that ignorant. :comeon:

4. Conflict over Jerusalem or holy sites ended hundreds of years ago until cacs started to colonize the region.

5. Most countries in the world don't support them. Only cacs do. Everyone else sees the blatant colonialism and apartheid.
The UN considers it an Apartheid state. Human Rights Watch just recently did a deep investigation and came to the same conclusion. :stopitslime:

True or not, nobody in the media will ever say this. Even if any Palestinian said this it wouldn’t air on tv or it’ll be seen as anti Semitic/crazy talk conspiracy theory, etc.... and make Palestine look worse.

So there goes that argument

let’s be realistic religion conflicts been around for thousands of years

at the end of the day it’s bigger than color

there’s white “Arabs”

there’s “Arab Jews”

theres Ethiopian Jews

theres European Jews

Arab isn’t even a race

Jewish isn’t even a race since most are considered white

nobody can prove what the Jews in the OT Bible looked like without first believing in the Bible and even then they’ve been exiled and mixes so who says ANYONE can’t claim to be descendants of the original Israelites

Anyways, if you wanna believe in the Bible/Quran you can’t bring that bias into a solution

The element of Religion makes the conflict untouchable and unfixable by outside leaders

If the real root of the conflict was colonialism it wouldn’t be still going on, it wouldn’t even be allowed by the UN

Religion is the excuse for colonialism but people wanna dance around that issue because it’s too complicated and a matter of faith

ask yourself why rich white Jewish people feel entitled to a piece of land in the Middle East in the first place when they can go live anywhere else in the world.... other than what’s in the Bible
 
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