Israel is probably going to bomb Turkey; Will NATO Article 5 be invoked by Erdogan if happens?

[FAH1223]

I mean what's going on in Syria is bad and seriously f'd up but by all accounts it's manageable and not an existential threat to Israel. I suppose that could change eventually?

I think Trump really f'd up letting the Kurds get sidelined. Idk if the US ended up pulling all their troops out. Idk what happened to all the ISIS prisoners the Kurds were holding. Turkey has played a really dangerous games with the jihadists they empowered and it could likely spill over into Iraq and even Jordan with the US being dragged again(last I checked we still haven't left Iraq which is conversation in itself).


That said I in no way see a direct conflict between Turkey and Israel.


I also find it highly disturbing that Turkey and the Gulf states have positioned themselves to lord over Syria and no one is calling it out

Turkey and the Gulf Arabs won in Syria. Iran and Russia lost their ally.

So of course the Turks are trying to help the Syrian interim government rebuild their military capabilities. Of course the Gulf Arabs are paying salaries for civil service workers.

Israel is proving they preferred Assad in power. As they knew he wasn't a threat.

Ahmed Al-Sharaa seems to be committed to rebuilding state capacity. Israel bombs targets to stop that rebuilding.

As far as ISIS, the U.S. still has a couple hundred troops in the east near Jordan/Iraq border. The SDF is still holding prisoners. The SDF has made a deal with Damascus to integrate themselves into the wider Syrian state.

 

[88m3]

Turkey and the Gulf Arabs won in Syria. Iran and Russia lost their ally.

So of course the Turks are trying to help the Syrian interim government rebuild their military capabilities. Of course the Gulf Arabs are paying salaries for civil service workers.

Israel is proving they preferred Assad in power. As they knew he wasn't a threat.

Ahmed Al-Sharaa seems to be committed to rebuilding state capacity. Israel bombs targets to stop that rebuilding.

As far as ISIS, the U.S. still has a couple hundred troops in the east near Jordan/Iraq border. The SDF is still holding prisoners. The SDF has made a deal with Damascus to integrate themselves into the wider Syrian state.

very pie in the sky outlook but you're entitled to it

to the victor goes the spoils I guess

interesting perspective


edit: still unclear why Israel or Turkey attack each other or you're saying Syria is a threat to Israel idk

 

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[Rosecrans]

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[88m3]

this is seriously unhealthy

 

[FAH1223]

Can't see the tweets, but why exactly would Israel bomb Turkey? Turkey has plenty of military capabilities, far more so that Iran.

For some reason they aren't showing up on chrome. But here they are:

https://x.com/DanLinnaeus/status/1965541557551161794

https://x.com/iwasnevrhere_/status/1965432205594820831

https://x.com/pati_marins64/status/1965504213506818546

https://x.com/hxhassan/status/1965521315399716908

Basically, since Turkey hosts some Hamas officials, they will be next on being bombed. And they bet that their won't be any consequences.

And yes, Turkey has a much larger military. Bigger air and naval fleets. Israel hasn't fought larger opponent with greater strategic depth... maybe ever?

 

[Grand Conde]

For some reason they aren't showing up on chrome. But here they are:

https://x.com/DanLinnaeus/status/1965541557551161794

https://x.com/iwasnevrhere_/status/1965432205594820831

https://x.com/pati_marins64/status/1965504213506818546

https://x.com/hxhassan/status/1965521315399716908

Basically, since Turkey hosts some Hamas officials, they will be next on being bombed. And they bet that their won't be any consequences.

And yes, Turkey has a much larger military. Bigger air and naval fleets. Israel hasn't fought larger opponent with greater strategic depth... maybe ever?

Nato won't do anything but regardless Turkey can hold its own nuts. Anyway a full out war between both will never happen, neither side want that.

 

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Am Yisrael Chai on their Jihad mission.


fukk them !

 

[42 Monks]

Turkey and the Gulf Arabs won in Syria. Iran and Russia lost their ally.

So of course the Turks are trying to help the Syrian interim government rebuild their military capabilities. Of course the Gulf Arabs are paying salaries for civil service workers.

Israel is proving they preferred Assad in power. As they knew he wasn't a threat.

Ahmed Al-Sharaa seems to be committed to rebuilding state capacity. Israel bombs targets to stop that rebuilding.

As far as ISIS, the U.S. still has a couple hundred troops in the east near Jordan/Iraq border. The SDF is still holding prisoners. The SDF has made a deal with Damascus to integrate themselves into the wider Syrian state.

you're running with a LOT in these statements and you know it man lol

every country that can is in a rush to carve steaks out of a destabilized syria - and a destabilzed syria is literally everyone's problem at the same time because that is exactly the kind of country that doesn't need a prolonged power vacuum the way Libya has. if anything people need to get used to foreign wars that do NOT have a large scale US occupation to make things oversimplified going forward.




and turkey is hardly some unilaterally supportive institution within NATO too. when the ukraine war kicked off and other countries tried to join NATO, remember how and why Turkey provided friction during their application process too lets not act like turkey hasn't taken the exact same saber rattling stance with countries harboring enemies of their state as well

 

[Loose]

Yes, this is absolutely within the realm of possibility. Israel functioning as a rogue, increasingly authoritarian state—has been trending in this direction for over a decade. If they decide to strike turkiye, it’ll be wrapped in some fabricated justification, propped up by U.S. tax dollars and diplomatic cover. Whether it escalates into full-blown war is anyone’s guess. But what’s clear is that NATO’s credibility is on the line. Article 5, the supposed backbone of collective defense—will be ignored, rendered meaningless. We've seen this playbook before. The pattern isn’t new; it’s just becoming harder to deny.

This isn’t about surprise. It’s about watching a slow-motion train wreck which we call Israel

 

[Sccit]

@Sccit

 

[mitter]

Israel knows that it can do basically whatever it wants without any consequences.

 

[mbewane]

There isn't any scenario under which NATO defends one of its members if the genocidal state attacks them. Not one. Most (far) right-wingers would actually probably applaud it, depending on where it strikes/who it kills.

And the question isn't why would they attack Turkiye, but why wouldn't they? It's a majority muslim country and a key player in the region, and they know they will get away with it. Who really is gonna retaliate? The US? France? The UK? Lol.

 

[voiture]

Hamas leadership should know they are not safe anywhere

 

[voiture]

Palestinian genocide, Iran bombings, Yemen bombings, Qatar bombing, threats to Turkey. This rogue state will self destruct eventually.

Israel was always going to hunt down Hamas leadership after October 7. I don't see any issue with what they are doing.
They are speaking the language that Hamas understands.