Israelis call this 'roof knocking'.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Hamas

Here you go. I know that link won't matter because I'm sure behind the scenes was some evil Jew that just felt the need to setup a terrorist organization that would kill his own people. :ld: I will say that I do believe Hamas has been manipulated at certain points in time to further Israeli interests, but to say it was started by Israel and to insinuate that Israel is the operator behind Hamas is just outrageous. Don't do that.

Do you believe everything wiki tells you.

http://middleeast.about.com/od/israelandpalestine/a/me090126.htm

http://www.upi.com/Business_News/Se...as-history-tied-to-Israel/UPI-82721024445587/
 

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Because :

1. IF they were trying to kill Hamas militants, why would they warn the occupants of the building? Why wouldn't they just bomb the building?

2. As evidenced from the video there is not even enough time to determine whether it was even your building that was roof knocked, it took 56 seconds

3. Even by giving a warning, Israel admits that they're targeting a civilian heavy zone with a 500lb bomb

4. It's obviously psychological warfare, subsequent to this any explosion is going to have Gazans running out of their beds, hell any knock loud enough
 

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Muslims are happy with the status quo of "Palestine" and Israel it gives them an excuse to not focus on their own repulsive "cultures".

I like how Palestine's neighbors Jordan and Egypt have almost completely rejected them.

Another one I like is when people praise these Muslim dictatorships and what they stand for yet these same countries would kill these Coli militants without a second thought.

I also like how people here think the Arab world isn't completely fukked up right now. Its like they forgot the Arab Spring from a year ago. Arab countries are mostly ass-backward and need to deflect onto Israel so their people don't get mad at the leadership. Its ok though, I think the Arab Spring has shown the people are finally coming around.
 

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Hamas basically needs to be destroyed in order for any peace to get in motion.

The arab and israeli worlds reaction on social media basically proves why nobody should give a shyt. They post pictures of kids from syria and say it's palestine. Today somebody had a pic of some child with the back of his head blown out, clearly from a gun, because no rocket attack from a jet plane would blow just the back of your head out, it was clearly a picture of a child who had his brains blown out by some muslim fantatic animal in syria/iraq and it's being passed off as something israel did. On the contrary, israelis apparently love when their army makes the most foolish moves like bombing a place where theere was disabled people, even if they were storing weapons there you don't bomb it.

Not to mention every single one is on some "OH ALLAH OH MUSLIMS!" man stfu, whining like a bytch while in another breath talking about how jews should all be killed, meanwhile, muslims blowing childrens brains out a few miles over.

this is so true. the middle east has no black and white areas. Its hard to tell whose who. You have Israeli bombing Arabs. And Arabs supporting Israel to some degree. ISIS's brutalizing Shiites. Sunni groups revolting against.ISIS Shiite Iran vs Sunni S. Arabia. The whole place is becoming a vacuum for those who seek power,
 

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Because :

1. IF they were trying to kill Hamas militants, why would they warn the occupants of the building? Why wouldn't they just bomb the building?

2. As evidenced from the video there is not even enough time to determine whether it was even your building that was roof knocked, it took 56 seconds

3. Even by giving a warning, Israel admits that they're targeting a civilian heavy zone with a 500lb bomb

4. It's obviously psychological warfare, subsequent to this any explosion is going to have Gazans running out of their beds, hell any knock loud enough

You're a smart guy. If your roof was knocked you would know, Bro. Maybe regular people could be in the same building as teh bad guys as well and this will give them the chance to run or duck and cover?

You're implying that the brave and noble Hamas would hide amongst civilians? I don't like that, don't do that. I can penetrate more with my piss than a 500lb bomb, Brah.

You know what maybe they should stop firing rockets at Israel? Or is it only psychological warfare when Israel does it? It probably is? Isn't it.

I've got an idea Hamas etc can fight Israel using conventional warfare the winner takes all. Hell make it interesting throw in Lebanon, Egypt, Jordan, Syria, and Iraq. The loosers are relocated to Saudi Arabia(knowing damn well who it will be) to continue their fratricide.
 

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2 July 2014 Last updated at 18:56 ET
Iraq: Gunmen kill 'at least 29' in attack in Baghdad
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Gunmen have stormed two buildings in the Iraqi capital, killing at least 29 people, officials say. At least 20 of those killed were said to be women.

The attack took place late on Saturday in the neighbourhood of Zayouna in east Baghdad, police said. One officer said he "found bodies everywhere".

The motive for the killings is not clear. No group has said it carried out the attack.

Reports said the two buildings were suspected to be brothels.

Writing left on the door of one of the buildings read: "This is the fate of any prostitution," AFP news agency reports.

Locals in Zayouna have accused Shia militias of killing women thought to be prostitutes, Reuters news agency reported. The neighbourhood is a mixed district of Sunni and Shia Muslims.

A brothel in Zayouna was attacked in May 2013, with seven women and five men shot dead.

Prostitution is prohibited under Islam, the dominant religion in Iraq.

Instability
Iraq is experiencing an upsurge in instability as government forces battle an Islamist insurgency led by the jihadist Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant (Isis), which has seized huge swathes of the country's north-west and closed in on cities near Baghdad.

Meanwhile, Kurdish ministers have suspended participation with the government after Prime Minister Nouri Maliki accused the autonomous region of sheltering extremists.

The current conflict in Iraq has acquired strong sectarian overtones, with disputes between the Kurds, the Sunnis and the Shia.

The Shia-led government is struggling against predominantly Sunni Isis fighters, and other Sunni rebel groups.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-28281102

It's not about religion
 

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You're a smart guy. If your roof was knocked you would know, Bro. Maybe regular people could be in the same building as teh bad guys as well and this will give them the chance to run or duck and cover?

You're implying that the brave and noble Hamas would hide amongst civilians? I don't like that, don't do that. I can penetrate more with my piss than a 500lb bomb, Brah.

You know what maybe they should stop firing rockets at Israel? Or is it only psychological warfare when Israel does it? It probably is? Isn't it.

I've got an idea Hamas etc can fight Israel using conventional warfare the winner takes all. Hell make it interesting throw in Lebanon, Egypt, Jordan, Syria, and Iraq. The loosers are relocated to Saudi Arabia(knowing damn well who it will be) to continue their fratricide.
Don't be so obtuse. My intelligence has no bearing on my ability to determine what has happened and run out of my house in 30 seconds. I didn't once say that Hamas doesn't hide amongst civilians but then again, so does the American military and Israel. When launching the rockets, Hamas could easily say that they intended to hit the Knesset but they missed. It's the same flawed logic. The fact is they have done nothing to reduce civilian casualties. They fire rockets after the've been bombed, that's the way these things are. Israeli soldiers murdered 2 Palestinian teens in cold blood recently, with no repercussions. If anything Hamas is showing amazing restraint by not firing rockets (that do nothing effectively) immediately after that. Then one of its citizens are killed by rabid settlers.

Maybe both sides should stop the fratricide and one side should end its illegal occupation and settlements, friend.
 
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Active in Gaza and the West Bank, Hamas wants to liberate all of Palestine and establish a radical Islamic state in place of Israel. It is has gained notoriety with its assassinations, car bombs and other acts of terrorism

Read more: http://www.upi.com/Business_News/Se...d-to-Israel/UPI-82721024445587/#ixzz37JifHqhZ

What was that you were saying @thekingsmen? From your own article btw.

Frankenstein creates the monster and blames the monster.
How is Hamas going to do all that being a creation of Israel( one of the most powerful military in the world) ? YOU LET ME KNOW.

http://www.alternet.org/story/116855/america's_hidden_role_in_hamas's_rise_to_power
 

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I like how Palestine's neighbors Jordan and Egypt have almost completely rejected them.

Another one I like is when people praise these Muslim dictatorships and what they stand for yet these same countries would kill these Coli militants without a second thought.

I also like how people here think the Arab world isn't completely fukked up right now. Its like they forgot the Arab Spring from a year ago. Arab countries are mostly ass-backward and need to deflect onto Israel so their people don't get mad at the leadership. Its ok though, I think the Arab Spring has shown the people are finally coming around.

if it weren't for the gulf states these people would have long ago been repatriated to their countries of origin.

"Palestine" "Palestinians" are a myth.
 

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Big bad Hamas has not killed a soul in this current conflict....

let that sink.....


i am not counting the 3 teenagers which wasnt them just want to make that clear
 
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2 July 2014 Last updated at 18:56 ET
Iraq: Gunmen kill 'at least 29' in attack in Baghdad
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Gunmen have stormed two buildings in the Iraqi capital, killing at least 29 people, officials say. At least 20 of those killed were said to be women.

The attack took place late on Saturday in the neighbourhood of Zayouna in east Baghdad, police said. One officer said he "found bodies everywhere".

The motive for the killings is not clear. No group has said it carried out the attack.

Reports said the two buildings were suspected to be brothels.

Writing left on the door of one of the buildings read: "This is the fate of any prostitution," AFP news agency reports.

Locals in Zayouna have accused Shia militias of killing women thought to be prostitutes, Reuters news agency reported. The neighbourhood is a mixed district of Sunni and Shia Muslims.

A brothel in Zayouna was attacked in May 2013, with seven women and five men shot dead.

Prostitution is prohibited under Islam, the dominant religion in Iraq.

Instability
Iraq is experiencing an upsurge in instability as government forces battle an Islamist insurgency led by the jihadist Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant (Isis), which has seized huge swathes of the country's north-west and closed in on cities near Baghdad.

Meanwhile, Kurdish ministers have suspended participation with the government after Prime Minister Nouri Maliki accused the autonomous region of sheltering extremists.

The current conflict in Iraq has acquired strong sectarian overtones, with disputes between the Kurds, the Sunnis and the Shia.

The Shia-led government is struggling against predominantly Sunni Isis fighters, and other Sunni rebel groups.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-28281102

It's not about religion

Wrong thread.
 

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Don't be so obtuse. My intelligence has no bearing on my ability to determine what has happened and run out of my house in 30 seconds. I didn't once say that Hamas doesn't hide amongst civilians but then again, so does the American military and Israel. When launching the rockets, Hamas could easily say that they intended to hit the Knesset but they missed. It's the same flawed logic. The fact is they have done nothing to reduce civilian casualties. They fire rockets after the've been bombed, that's the way these things are. Israeli soldiers murdered 2 Palestinian teens in cold blood recently, with no repercussions. If anything Hamas is showing amazing restraint by not firing rockets (that do nothing effectively) immediately after that. Then one of its citizens are killed by rabid settlers.

Maybe both sides should stop the fratricide and one side should end its illegal occupation and settlements, friend.

You couldn't get out of your house in 30 whole seconds? Are you mentally or physically incapacitated? Perhaps your intelligence has a bearing here that I've previously failed to appreciate. Think about what you're saying. Want to try right now use a stop watch if you need to. See how long it takes you to get out of your house or apartment. 30 seconds doesn't sound like a lot but it is an eternity in all actuality of what we are theorizing. I'm not kidding either. Seriously, serious. What does America have to do with this conversation, brah? Trying to head off topic are we? Palestine has been sending rockets at Israel all year, don't play dumb. Reducing civilian casualties is that Israel's job or Hamas's? This roof knocking idea is interesting I've got to hand it to them. "Palestinian" teens needs to stop throwing rocks and get a job that doesn't require blowing themselves up. Hamas just railroaded any chance there was of peace with their new charade with Fatah. It's over. Israel should go into Gaza and the West Bank and appropriate the land however they feel is necessary. The "Palestinians" can create a trail of tears to their countries of origin or maybe a river would be more swift.
 
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