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6. Accordingly, Esau went out a hunting. But Rebeka (33) thinking it proper to have the supplication made for obtaining the favor of God to Jacob, and that without the consent of Isaac, bid him kill kids of the goats, and prepare a supper. So Jacob obeyed his mother, according to all her instructions. Now when the supper was got ready, he took a goat's skin, and put it about his arm, that by reason of its hairy roughness, he might by his father be believed to be Esau; for they being twins, and in all things else alike, differed only in this thing.

Genesis 25:24

24 And when her days to be delivered were fulfilled, behold, there were twins in her womb.

^^^^^^^^^^^^

Now, for anyone looking in, where in the above scripture of Genesis 25:24 does it state, or even IMPLY that the twins, Jacob and Esau only differed in 'hairy roughness' which the scriptures don't even say. The next scripture said Esau was 'red, all over like an hairy garment', not that he was hairy. He was a 'hairy' man when he was an adult.

25 And the first came out red, all over like an hairy garment; and they called his name Esau.

In fact, the SCRIPTURES tell us that TWO DIFFERENT NATIONS are in Rebekah's womb, so why the fukk would they look alike.

23 And the LORD said unto her, Two nations are in thy womb, and two manner of people shall be separated from thy bowels; and the one people shall be stronger than the other people; and the elder shall serve the younger.

Clearly, Josephus is full of bullshyt especially since there is no need for him to 'retell' what's in the Bible regarding the birth of Jacob and Esau.
 

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Josephus isn't scripture. Infact, Josephus is ADDING to scripture like you Edomites like to do.

Lol, how is he adding to scripture, if his account is a Targum which is verified by scripture?


Do you even know what a Targum is? Seeing as you post a video that attempts to make an Edom-Rome connection, WHICH QUOTES DIRECTLY FROM A FALSE ONE.

Then again, I just remembered that you don't actually fact check the things you watch.

And the irony of YOU talking about anyone adding to things. Breh, the whole belief system you parrot is BASED on adding AND taking away from scripture.

Which is why you continually get cut by me. Cause you cannot refute anything I present. So when I hit you with facts, you start moonwalking.

But let's not stop here. I'ma hit you with some hard to answer questions.

Can you offer up proof that Lashawan Qadash is in fact Ancient Hebrew?

Don't forget to quote your primary and secondary sources.
 

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Lol, how is he adding to scripture, if his account is a Targum which is verified by scripture?


Do you even know what a Targum is? Seeing as you post a video that attempts to make an Edom-Rome connection, WHICH QUOTES DIRECTLY FROM A FALSE ONE.

Then again, I just remembered that you don't actually fact check the things you watch.

And the irony of YOU talking about anyone adding to things. Breh, the whole belief system you parrot is BASED on adding AND taking away from scripture.

Which is why you continually get cut by me. Cause you cannot refute anything I present. So when I hit you with facts, you start moonwalking.

But let's not stop here. I'ma hit you with some hard to answer questions.

Can you offer up proof that Lashawan Qadash is in fact Ancient Hebrew?

Don't forget to quote your primary and secondary sources.

Don't try to change the subject Edomite. Go ahead and 'cut' me with the article about blood draining from meat at the slaughter. That's your position right?
 

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6. Accordingly, Esau went out a hunting. But Rebeka (33) thinking it proper to have the supplication made for obtaining the favor of God to Jacob, and that without the consent of Isaac, bid him kill kids of the goats, and prepare a supper. So Jacob obeyed his mother, according to all her instructions. Now when the supper was got ready, he took a goat's skin, and put it about his arm, that by reason of its hairy roughness, he might by his father be believed to be Esau; for they being twins, and in all things else alike, differed only in this thing.

Genesis 25:24

24 And when her days to be delivered were fulfilled, behold, there were twins in her womb.

^^^^^^^^^^^^

Now, for anyone looking in, where in the above scripture of Genesis 25:24 does it state, or even IMPLY that the twins, Jacob and Esau only differed in 'hairy roughness' which the scriptures don't even say. The next scripture said Esau was 'red, all over like an hairy garment', not that he was hairy. He was a 'hairy' man when he was an adult.

25 And the first came out red, all over like an hairy garment; and they called his name Esau.

In fact, the SCRIPTURES tell us that TWO DIFFERENT NATIONS are in Rebekah's womb, so why the fukk would they look alike.

23 And the LORD said unto her, Two nations are in thy womb, and two manner of people shall be separated from thy bowels; and the one people shall be stronger than the other people; and the elder shall serve the younger.

Clearly, Josephus is full of bullshyt especially since there is no need for him to 'retell' what's in the Bible regarding the birth of Jacob and Esau.

:mjlol::mjlol::mjlol::mjlol: You really are dumb as hell.


So according to your ridiculously dense logic, nationality is akin to the modern concept of race? :mjlol::mjlol::mjlol:
So let's see.... the ancient Egyptians were "black: correct? Were they NOT a different nation than the Israelites? :sas2:


Btw, let's completely ignore the fact that Esau and Jacob were called twins. Not paternal, but LITERAL twins.

And let's also ignore the fact that David was described with the same Hebrew word as Esau. Adomni. (click)

:sas1: @QamYasharahla
 

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:mjlol::mjlol::mjlol::mjlol: You really are dumb as hell.


So according to your ridiculously dense logic, nationality is akin to the modern concept of race? :mjlol::mjlol::mjlol:
So let's see.... the ancient Egyptians were "black: correct? Were they NOT a different nation than the Israelites? :sas2:


Btw, let's completely ignore the fact that Esau and Jacob were called twins. Not paternal, but LITERAL twins.

And let's also ignore the fact that David was described with the same Hebrew word as Esau. Adomni. (click)

:sas1: @QamYasharahla

yeah, these kids are twins also.

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His account isn't verified by scripture. Please point out in genesis 25:24 where it states that Jacob and Esau are alike in everything, except 'hairy roughness' as Jospehus said.

24 And when her days to be delivered were fulfilled, behold, there were twins in her womb.

I'll give you a hint, it's not there.

http://www.ccel.org/j/josephus/works/ant-1.htm

Chapter 18, section 6.

6. Accordingly, Esau went out a hunting. But Rebeka (33) thinking it proper to have the supplication made for obtaining the favor of God to Jacob, and that without the consent of Isaac, bid him kill kids of the goats, and prepare a supper. So Jacob obeyed his mother, according to all her instructions. Now when the supper was got ready, he took a goat's skin, and put it about his arm, that by reason of its hairy roughness, he might by his father be believed to be Esau; for they being twins, and in all things else alike, differed only in this thing.

Genesis 25:24

So when her days were fulfilled for her to give birth, indeed there were twins in her womb


Oh btw, @QamYasharahla

http://biblehub.com/text/genesis/25-24.htm
http://biblehub.com/hebrew/8380.htm
taom: twins
Original Word: תְאוֹמִים
Part of Speech: Noun Masculine
Transliteration: taom
Phonetic Spelling: (taw-ome')
Short Definition: twins

Twins in that passage is literal.

Then again, you don't actually know Hebrew.

And with that said.



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:mjlol::mjlol::mjlol::mjlol: You really are dumb as hell.


So according to your ridiculously dense logic, nationality is akin to the modern concept of race? :mjlol::mjlol::mjlol:
So let's see.... the ancient Egyptians were "black: correct? Were they NOT a different nation than the Israelites? :sas2:


Btw, let's completely ignore the fact that Esau and Jacob were called twins. Not paternal, but LITERAL twins.

And let's also ignore the fact that David was described with the same Hebrew word as Esau. Adomni. (click)

:sas1: @QamYasharahla

And how the fukk would they even have a chance to be called 'patenal twins' in the Bible when that term clearly hasn't been around since ancient times?? The shyt you say is stupid as fukk.
 

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yeah, these kids are twins also.

tumblr_n64devD2xV1qlv134o1_1280.jpg


Czar said:
http://www.ccel.org/j/josephus/works/ant-1.htm

Chapter 18, section 6.

6. Accordingly, Esau went out a hunting. But Rebeka (33) thinking it proper to have the supplication made for obtaining the favor of God to Jacob, and that without the consent of Isaac, bid him kill kids of the goats, and prepare a supper. So Jacob obeyed his mother, according to all her instructions. Now when the supper was got ready, he took a goat's skin, and put it about his arm, that by reason of its hairy roughness, he might by his father be believed to be Esau; for they being twins, and in all things else alike, differed only in this thing.

Genesis 25:24

So when her days were fulfilled for her to give birth, indeed there were twins in her womb


Oh btw, @QamYasharahla

http://biblehub.com/text/genesis/25-24.htm
http://biblehub.com/hebrew/8380.htm
taom: twins
Original Word: תְאוֹמִים
Part of Speech: Noun Masculine
Transliteration: taom
Phonetic Spelling: (taw-ome')
Short Definition: twins

Twins in that passage is literal.

Then again, you don't actually know Hebrew.

And with that said.



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It appears the fakkit @Czar lost this Esau topic. Time to move on with the blood issue. Now, it's your position that ALL blood leaves the animal doing slaughter correct? People are going to see you dodge this question if you don't answer it.
 

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And how the fukk would they even have a chance to be called 'patenal twins' in the Bible when that term clearly hasn't been around since ancient times?? The shyt you say is stupid as fukk.

Fraternal twins* My mistake. But it doesn't take away from the stupidity of your argument.


http://biblehub.com/hebrew/8380.htm
taom: twins
Original Word: תְאוֹמִים
Part of Speech: Noun Masculine
Transliteration: taom
Phonetic Spelling: (taw-ome')
Short Definition: twins

since the Hebrew is very clear on that. When it states twins, it literal means twins.

I mean, how does someone even come to the retarded conclusion that Esau was white? Especially since NEITHER of his parents acted surprised when he was born?

Just to prove a point on how reaction is important, considering the example of book of Enoch. When Lamech saw that Noah came out white, he was utterly shocked and surprised.

The same can be said of Moses and Miriam's accounts, when his hand and her body were turned white.

Yet you mean to tell me that not ONE reputable ancient historical account even remotely hints at Esau being white? Yet you're openly parroting and defending a theory that is baseless? :mjlol:
 
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