Issa Rae is pissed off about something

[blackgentlemenvoice]

he was meddling in the leadership of sovereign governments, you stupid fukk, which is one of the main things the CIA is known for


James Baldwin is embraced but somehow Rustin rose to prominence in the same era and you claim they wanted "him silent and in the back" because he made them uncomfortable



you're a fukking clown

Your a very crude man aren’t you.

Rustin wasn’t liked for his sexuality and it was a very big deal no matter his accomplishments which held him back. He was primarily a influential adviser, when he should have been speaking more to the masses. Instead he was criticized by conservative black men & and his own Movement. That “pervert” helped make Dr king movement.

Many of our people are in the government...so again like your first crude post. So what... we are all complicit in something. May in dc look away all the time.

 

[blackgentlemenvoice]

he was meddling in the leadership of sovereign governments, you stupid fukk, which is one of the main things the CIA is known for


James Baldwin is embraced but somehow Rustin rose to prominence in the same era and you claim they wanted "him silent and in the back" because he made them uncomfortable



you're a fukking clown

Lol a neg isn’t going to do shyt to me.

Just block me if you can’t have a discussion and you called zesty & emotional lol

 

[Yaboysix]

BISEXUAL nikkas really out there Like that? I mean openly dabbling with both men and women?? (not the sneaky DL nikkas or the confused ones)...

I don't think ive ever met a bisexual dude before lol.

 

[Blackout]

There plenty of men who aren’t homophobic. Those are the straight men I care and focus on.I gave you over 10 shows that have strong straight men and predominately black families. Again this is A better golden age of black cinema/Tv. Better than the 90’s. Are people can tell multiple stories with decent to great budgets on multiple platforms.

As for Omar, the fact that a black man back them was masculine, from the hood and gay. Do not lie to yourself he is the original poster boy for homophobic men to say the media is emasculating black men. Which is stupid cause there nothing feminine about him. You have rose-colored glasses on about that period.

And why does every black centered show have to be about white people. Y’all give them WAY to much Credit. They do not affect my nor every black people life on a day to day basis.

Unlike the other posters in here, you watched her work. She introduced and talked about a lot and her shows, all of the characters are grew.

Issa basically said fukk Mexicans in season 2 until her change of heart. What show would truly tackle that issue.
Lawrence Was a loyal dude who broke up with Issa, got with a chick who was down for him and cheated/DUMP Her because she wasn’t on his level. Only to get dump by a women who was on his level because he was damaged good.

Y’all are giving her tooo LITTLE credit. She’s created great conversations, wait to see what the show themes are.

As I said my focus is improving relations among all black people and gay and straight is a part of that move. If you have no interest in trying to make straight men hate bisexual men less then you have no reason to come at me. You can sit idly on the sidelines while us who want our people to progress get in the dirt to build up.

I’m not lying to myself. Most people don’t care that Omar is gay. There are plenty straight black men in there to represent straight black men for any of us to stress a few gay ones in there which is why not much people cared about Omar being gay. In fact him being masculine and not some flaming stereotype helped as well. In fact Omar didn’t make it a point it to make the straight black man the enemy in the show. He just came in did his thing as any other character did and added to the story.

Conversation is all that gets done via your method. No action done and no progress made to get out of the hole just a bunch of useless convo while we stay in the hole. In fact if there is action there are racist whites weaponizing you to continue the discord that we have in this hole that we all are stuck in instead of focusing on how to get out.

 

[Hannibal Fox]

Calling out racist white people is now a national pastime right alone with killing criminal & innocent black people.

And why should they shy away from the one of the very reason so many black gay and bi men have self esteem & identity issues. Long before white supremacy can touch them, certain black homophobic communities & families do the white man job to these young men. They shouldn’t have any loyalty to these people. They showed who they are. I’m just confused what loyalty you think it’s owned. Cause even in 2018 more gay/bi men stay in the closet and marry women to keep making their family is happy.

Not saying at all this show will touch on any of this.
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I just find it hypocritical. You talk about the media showing black straight men as the enemy but on empire. Jamal straight brothers are always their for him & Jamal just like his conflicted daddy.

Etc with other shows. They always straight black men to stand with the gay characters to counterbalance the so call evil stereotype as you put it.

Black men are chosen in tv/film WAYYYYY more than black men. I just don’t see this blatant agenda long term.

Name them or are you talking out your ass?

It's funny same black community you're shytting on was the same community they ran to for shelter when the dominant society at large was denying them basics like food, shelter and jobs or outright extorting them in the case of La Cosa Nostra and the Gay gentlemen clubs of NY which they owned and controlled.

You making sweeping generalizations is doing the "white mans job"

As soon as the power brokers realized that the LGBT community had disposable income (IE: Gay men for the most part!) and decided to roll out the red carpet, some of you were happy to show your true colors, all of a sudden it's blacks this blacks that, it is what it is though, there is a game being played here that many are either too ignorant to see or too willing to participate in.

Enjoy the tokenism and the fake adulation while it lasts, same people you're shytting on will be the same people you come begging to for help when the pendulum swings back the other way, while the people you''ve ben trying to curry favor with will outright shun you, mark my words!

 

[Gravity]

While White evangelical Christians may hold power in those countries, your basically saying those people are mindless. They chose to hunt, abuse, stone and kill gays. They are not powerless.

I didn’t say or imply any of those things. Those are your thoughts.

This is my problem when black people talk about white supremacy. Black people choose to abide by it, most Americans don’t have any real power. Certein percentage of our people are mentally weak. I will not fight for their lack of ambition. Systematic racism is real but just seen your logic give black people the excuse not to do shyt And wait for someone else carry there lazy asses.

Your “systematic racism is real but....” comment is quite telling to me. It’s like when people say “I don’t mean any disrespect but........” then immediately say something that’s disrespectful. Seems like you’re low key downplaying or deflecting from systematic white racism and it’s effect on blacks.

I say that being gay isn't mentally and emotionally weak/damaged. I say that systematic white supremacy encourages and influences blacks to be gay in a variety of ways and you're one of the weak blacks who couldn't overcome the social engineering.

What is your version of the family structure?
Please don’t try to romanticize the early 1900 to 1960
Cause what I recall my grandmother and great grandpa telling me. A lot of wives where getting their ass beat, no education,outside babies, etc......you don’t have causes like women rights for nothing.

Man+woman+child(ren) is the basic foundation for all families. I said that in the last post. I didn’t say this that the traditional family structure was perfect. There are going to always be problems. I’m not sure what your “my grandparents told me.....” point is. at you using "outside babies" as something to discredit the traditional family structure when there was nowhere near as many illegitimate or outside babies as there are now. Before the civil rights movement 76% of black children were born to married black women, now in 2018 that statistic has flooded with over 70% of black children now being born to single non married black women.

We need to reinvest in the traditional family structure, not join white liberals in their alternative lifestyle agenda. It perpetuates the dysfunction.

Get in where they fit in....That will never work. I and others refuse to be the
Bayard Rustin of the party. ( he did GREAT work) but won’t be behind the scene to make A demographic of my people I don’t respect comfortable. I not beneath any man, especially not cause of sexuality.

You shouldn't want to be like Rustin because he was an agent.

I didn't say that you were beneath any man(be honest tho, you clearly like to be under other men). I said that it's fukk blacks who can't put black empowerment first. There are blacks out here who think that advocating for their gender and sexuality cause is just as important as advocating for black empowerment and those blacks are c00n saboteurs. They're just around to divide us from within.

I don't care about your personal life choices. My point is that the promotion and normalization of homosexuality is detrimental to the community because it directly contradicts the healthy functional traditional family structure. You can be gay all you want, just don't try and push that shyt on the community.

I wonder what your solution is. You talk about building but sooo many of our brothers/ sisters are broken. They find Comfort in ignorance & dysfunction.
They will not be my downfall.

My solution starts with reinvesting in family building. Building strong communities first starts with building strong families. I've said this over and over. Many of our people are broken because they've been sabotaged in their upbringing. They're being born and raised in dysfunctional environments and then miseducated by a racist and dysfunctional education system and society.

You should be careful with the rocks that you're throwing. As a gay person you inherently find comfort in dysfunction. It doesn't get too much more dysfunctional than a man preferring to have anal sex with other men over having sex with women.

My parents lifted me & my siblings from Inglewood(bad side) to a great lifestyle one I making sure to bring preserve. My circle is great likeminded black brothers & sisters. Gay, straight, whatever. I fight for them. I’ll fight for my community.

Yes, your parents did that. You had a mom and dad. Most black children are being raised without that luxury. We should all be fighting for more black children to have the luxury that you and I had.

I’m not sticking my neck out for people who will fail & give up cause things got to hard. A lot of black people are like that. No discipline, mediocre Drive, fukked up families.

Sooo many of our know better but won’t do shyt. Just complacent white institutions may have done this to us but they don’t we need tohold a string anymore.

How are you "sticking your neck out" for anyone tho? What sacrifices are you making for other blacks? You can't even put your personal lifestyle advocacy to the back so that we can do what's best for the masses. You've got an overinflated ego and sense of worth. Nobody's going to beg you to stay down with the struggle. If it's too much, go that way.

 

[blackgentlemenvoice]

As I said my focus is improving relations among all black people and gay and straight is a part of that move. If you have no interest in trying to make straight men hate bisexual men less then you have no reason to come at me. You can sit idly on the sidelines while us who want our people to progress get in the dirt to build up.

I’m not lying to myself. Most people don’t care that Omar is gay. There are plenty straight black men in there to represent straight black men for any of us to stress a few gay ones in there which is why not much people cared about Omar being gay. In fact him being masculine and not some flaming stereotype helped as well. In fact Omar didn’t make it a point it to make the straight black man the enemy in the show. He just came in did his thing as any other character did and added to the story.

Conversation is all that gets done via your method. No action done and no progress made to get out of the hole just a bunch of useless convo while we stay in the hole. In fact if there is action there are racist whites weaponizing you to continue the discord that we have in this hole that we all are stuck in instead of focusing on how to get out.

All this straight dudes in their feeling about a show starring a bi sexual man is misunderstanding?

racist whites don’t need to the job if my so called brother doing for him.

Name them or are you talking out your ass?

It's funny same black community you're shytting on was the same community they ran to for shelter when the dominant society at large was denying them basics like food, shelter and jobs or outright extorting them in the case of La Cosa Nostra and the Gay gentlemen clubs of NY which they owned and controlled.

You making sweeping generalizations is doing the "white mans job"

As soon as the power brokers realized that the LGBT community had disposable income (IE: Gay men for the most part!) and decided to roll out the red carpet, some of you were happy to show your true colors, all of a sudden it's blacks this blacks that, it is what it is though, there is a game being played here that many are either too ignorant to see or too willing to participate in.

Enjoy the tokenism and the fake adulation while it lasts, same people you're shytting on will be the same people you come begging to for help when the pendulum swings back the other way, while the people you''ve ben trying to curry favor with will outright shun you, mark my words!

Power brokers. Say the politicians names that implemented and enforce these laws. These white people are not the boogie man.

So large number of good kids weren’t thrown out there houses just for going gay, ostracized?
There’s no true colors (men respond to how they are treated. Your ignoring that & again I said certain communities. )

Exploitation happens all forms. A good number of our low income/ lost suburban straight black men do it by continuing the negative stereotypes about our people and upload to the masses. That a whole billion dollar culture by it self.

Disposable income..... Alot of us people have money. Whether it’s individual, family or kept in certain circles and communities. Like minded people always find each other. ( another exploitation all of US are broke and come from single-family homes, or fukked up situations ) now our debt to actual wealth is sad but we are doing better in this generation.

For the record, AA aren’t united to have one big black community. I said certain communities
Number of our people are mentally weak & they don’t want better They keep themselves in generational dysfunction. you can try to save them if you want to.

 

[beenz]

if her teeth come out any further...

How you have perfect teeth but still need braces?

I thought it was just me who thought she has waaaaayyyy too many teeth in her mouth.

 

[Blackout]

All this straight dudes in their feeling about a show starring a bi sexual man is misunderstanding?

racist whites don’t need to the job if my so called brother doing for him.

Take it however you want.

Once you become weaponized and then your massa throws you away youll learn.

 

[blackgentlemenvoice]

I didn’t say or imply any of those things. Those are your thoughts.

Your “systematic racism is real but....” comment is quite telling to me. It’s like when people say “I don’t mean any disrespect but........” then immediately say something that’s disrespectful. Seems like you’re low key downplaying or deflecting from systematic white racism and it’s effect on blacks.

I say that being gay isn't mentally and emotionally weak/damaged. I say that systematic white supremacy encourages and influences blacks to be gay in a variety of ways and you're one of the weak blacks who couldn't overcome the social engineering.

Man+woman+child(ren) is the basic foundation for all families. I said that in the last post. I didn’t say this that the traditional family structure was perfect. There are going to always be problems. I’m not sure what your “my grandparents told me.....” point is. at you using "outside babies" as something to discredit the traditional family structure when there was nowhere near as many illegitimate or outside babies as there are now. Before the civil rights movement 76% of black children were born to married black women, now in 2018 that statistic has flooded with over 70% of black children now being born to single non married black women.

We need to reinvest in the traditional family structure, not join white liberals in their alternative lifestyle agenda. It perpetuates the dysfunction.

You shouldn't want to be like Rustin because he was an agent.

I didn't say that you were beneath any man(be honest tho, you clearly like to be under other men). I said that it's fukk blacks who can't put black empowerment first. There are blacks out here who think that advocating for their gender and sexuality cause is just as important as advocating for black empowerment and those blacks are c00n saboteurs. They're just around to divide us from within.

I don't care about your personal life choices. My point is that the promotion and normalization of homosexuality is detrimental to the community because it directly contradicts the healthy functional traditional family structure. You can be gay all you want, just don't try and push that shyt on the community.

My solution starts with reinvesting in family building. Building strong communities first starts with building strong families. I've said this over and over. Many of our people are broken because they've been sabotaged in their upbringing. They're being born and raised in dysfunctional environments and then miseducated by a racist and dysfunctional education system and society.

You should be careful with the rocks that you're throwing. As a gay person you inherently find comfort in dysfunction. It doesn't get too much more dysfunctional than a man preferring to have anal sex with other men over having sex with women.

Yes, your parents did that. You had a mom and dad. Most black children are being raised without that luxury. We should all be fighting for more black children to have the luxury that you and I had.


How are you "sticking your neck out" for anyone tho? What sacrifices are you making for other blacks? You can't even put your personal lifestyle advocacy to the back so that we can do what's best for the masses. You've got an overinflated ego and sense of worth. Nobody's going to beg you to stay down with the struggle. If it's too much, go that way.

I’m very honest. I’m Not downplaying anything, when you know better you can do way more. They are mentally weak, they do not want to seek knowledge, have no urgency to correct the mistakes of their parents or grandparents.

I was proudly born gay and yes we wouldnt be in the same long term fight. I do not stand by anyone who thinks I’m a abnormal. Nothing dysfunctional about my life, I have no worries or drama. Just young & impatient.

You don’t know how I like to fukk( don’t assume)

You can’t divide was not united. Do I hope one hell ya but I’m a realist

America education shytty, so what The Internet is cheap or free. thousands of ways to educate each other, yet they DONT. So many curriculums and free sites where you can teach your kids, have them learn well beyond their age level, Free programs about financial literacy, learn about predatory loans, redlining, etc

For all of our country bullshyt, there still NO reason for so many of our people to be so mediocre.

I will never do a struggle again, unlike my siblings I remember the days in Inglewood. I also will not surround myself with people who make their own lives harder, I’m not down. I want to uplift. You can’t rebuild if you don’t allow people accountable for their own actions or circumstances.

I do understand some of your point but in your delivery your just making excuses for them.

 

[blackgentlemenvoice]

Take it however you want.

Once you become weaponized and then your massa throws you away youll learn.

I’m Not beholden to any white man or institution.

I just want an honest discussion.

 

[Soundbwoy]

it aint gone work
nikkas cant get backing from Hollywood like that

nikkas sound defeated in here, there's plenty of black-owned series on youtube talking about the black male experience my favorite one is That Guy, stop making excuses and look for the content you're looking for @Ziggiy has a webserie on youtube Blue Collar Hustle go support that nikka instead of making excuses

 

[Eclipser]

All this straight dudes in their feeling about a show starring a bi sexual man is misunderstanding?

racist whites don’t need to the job if my so called brother doing for him.



Power brokers. Say the politicians names that implemented and enforce these laws. These white people are not the boogie man.

So large number of good kids weren’t thrown out there houses just for going gay, ostracized?
There’s no true colors (men respond to how they are treated. Your ignoring that & again I said certain communities. )

Exploitation happens all forms. A good number of our low income/ lost suburban straight black men do it by continuing the negative stereotypes about our people and upload to the masses. That a whole billion dollar culture by it self.

Disposable income..... Alot of us people have money. Whether it’s individual, family or kept in certain circles and communities. Like minded people always find each other. ( another exploitation all of US are broke and come from single-family homes, or fukked up situations ) now our debt to actual wealth is sad but we are doing better in this generation.

For the record, AA aren’t united to have one big black community. I said certain communities
Number of our people are mentally weak & they don’t want better They keep themselves in generational dysfunction. you can try to save them if you want to.

Why argue over community issues with someone who holds disdain for and has self-selected himself out of the community? Seems fruitless to me.

 

[Blackout]

I’m Not beholden to any white man or institution.

I just want an honest discussion.

Oh you are and you don’t even realize it.

I feel sorry for you cats who are never on defense against racist whites. In these current times that’s dangerous.

 

[blackgentlemenvoice]

Why argue over community issues with someone who holds disdain for and has self-selected himself out of the community? Seems fruitless to me.

I personally don’t think their this large community.

But to answer your question. I know it may seem that way because of the tone of my words but I do care. Time & time again I’ve just seen certain mindsets of our people fail themselves and burn bridges for people who tried to lift them up. I don’t mean they do a bad job/school/ social event and regroup....I can motivate and work with that. No they do the bare minimum, are ok with mediocrity and thing get to tough/ inconvenience they quit. They Don’t even regroup and try again.

Disdain comes from wanting SOO much for my people. My parents, others family members, and friends who helped each other into new tax brackets,opportunities, and advantages. When they tried to put others on. They got burned, they wanted handout cause they were friends, my Parents put them on..they just had to rise, instead it was the bare minimum effort, they allowed outside circumstances which they could have cut off to fukk up money. There was no hustle pride.

My mom was literally helping four of her friends families with their rent until she did her taxes. Multiple Able-bodied grown people in each of these houses but couldn’t pay their own rent.

Example for me. A few acquaintances from the youth center are working warehouse/ retail jobs, Great if they were actually trying to move and not go from temp agency to temp agency. I tried to put them on to things. Free self taught computer certified courses or links bootcamps to help them jump a whole tax bracket in less than a year. Mind you these are things they keep talking about and complaining about but no action.

They dudes cant put down the weed, girls, saying their two tired. Nah I’m comfortable...who comfortable making $12 an hour and no REAL benefits. We are still cool but I truly understand with my dad was telling me now you have to distance yourself or they will suck you down with them.

I’m not helping cramb in the barrel people. All the complaining, not changing bullshyt, not cuffing toxic people and not surround yourself with people who uplift, network and build with you.

I will help when people wake up. I’m not gonna make excuses for them.