It just hit me how much young talent the NBA has now

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Nash was mid 00's :stopitslime: .... And outside of the obvious elite players , I was never impressed by early 2000 players (Top 15 players from that era are HOF but after that it was a lot of heavily flawed players)

I've watched multiple early 2000's games and its :hhh: , the poor execution down the stretch , the teams not being really deep , slowed down iso bogged down offense outside of a few teams (these so happened to be the teams that were year in and out the best teams in their conferences) , the East Conference was so trash (It's trash now but man mfs was getting the 1st seed with 50 wins :mjlol:)

:camby:The Celtics just won the 1 seed and barely won 50 games nikka.
 

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Just shut the fukk up and stick to college football. shyt like this tells me you don't even watch basketball. All you did was look up some stats on the internet.

Stop embarrassing yourself. This sport is way over your head.
I watch ten times more NBA than I do college football. He has not been a playmaker his entire career. His rebounding is putrid for someone his size. He laxes on defense despite having the ideal length and agility to be really good.

The mere fact that you cannot say anything to counter my point and instead go with some lazy statement that I don’t know basketball when it’s easily my favorite sport let’s me know you already know I’m right.

Again, he’s a black hole on offense and isn’t super elite right now at scoring. Nothing you can say will prove otherwise.
 

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Which is pretty good considering Kobe is the GOAT.

:mjlol:

Kobe wishes he was as good as MJ. Imagine MJ losing a 7 game series to a team led by Steve Nash after being up 3-1 :mjlol:

You ain't in GOAT consideration if you weren't the best player in the finals, the biggest stage, for the majority of your rings :hhh:
 
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:mjlol:

Kobe wishes he was as good as MJ. Imagine MJ losing a 7 game series to a team led by Steve Nash after being up 3-1 :mjlol:

You ain't in GOAT consideration if you weren't the best player in the finals, the biggest stage, for the majority of your rings :hhh:

:comeon: This terrible logic.


Then how can Lebron be In goat consideration seeing as he was suppose to be the best player in all of his finals yet has loss 5 times now?
 
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I watch ten times more NBA than I do college football. He has not been a playmaker his entire career. His rebounding is putrid for someone his size. He laxes on defense despite having the ideal length and agility to be really good.

The mere fact that you cannot say anything to counter my point and instead go with some lazy statement that I don’t know basketball when it’s easily my favorite sport let’s me know you already know I’m right.

Again, he’s a black hole on offense and isn’t super elite right now at scoring. Nothing you can say will prove otherwise.

Like I said, you don't watch any basketball. How can Wiggins be a black hole offensively if he never touches the ball? He's mostly just standing out there on the perimeter watching Teague/Butler play a two man game with Towns. The few times he touches the ball he either makes the correct basketball play or shoots.

Tonight he only took 12 shots.

Its very hard to be a black hole if you rarely ever touch the ball.
 

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Like I said, you don't watch any basketball. How can Wiggins be a black hole offensively if he never touches the ball? He's mostly just standing out there on the perimeter watching Teague/Butler play a two man game with Towns. The few times he touches the ball he either makes the correct basketball play or shoots.

Tonight he only took 12 shots.

Its very hard to be a black hole if you rarely ever touch the ball.
Again, you don’t know what you’re talking about. He finished 8th in the league in shot attempts last year. Only not shooting as much this year because Butler is on the team. He takes plenty of shots. If all he did was just stand around and “make the correct play,” his correct play is to take the shot most of the time, which is exactly what a black hole does. He doesn’t make a play for any open man, he keeps the ball and takes the shot almost every time.
 
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Again, you don’t know what you’re talking about. He finished 8th in the league in shot attempts last year. Only not shooting as much this year because Butler is on the team. He takes plenty of shots. If all he did was just stand around and “make the correct play,” his correct play is to take the shot most of the time, which is exactly what a black hole does. He doesn’t make a play for any open man, he keeps the ball and takes the shot almost every time.

As I said earlier keep to college football cause you obviously don't watch the Wolves play AT ALL.

When I say he makes the right basketball play, I'm telling you when he gets doubled he passes. When he's one on one, he takes the shot. There are other players on the Wolves who don't play the right way. Towns is notoriously selfish as he takes many shots against double teams which leads to lots of turnovers and badly missed shots. You think Wiggins is selfish because he doesn't get many assists. That is the sort of mindset ignorant people who don't watch basketball think. If you actually watched the Wolves consistently last year like I did, you would know that Wiggins almost always made the right pass he just didn't have any shooters on his team. So all those passes to Rubio for open shots (cause nobody respected his shot) ended up being misses rather than resulting in assists.

Assists are not a sign of an unselfish player. Its just a by product of how often you have the ball in your hands and how good the shooters around you are. How a player reacts to double teams is a true sign of whether they are selfish or not. If a player consistently makes the right pass then they are unselfish even if it doesn't result in a made shot and assist. If the player doesn't pass the ball when doubled but instead forces the issue to try and score then they are selfish. I've never seen Wiggins try to force the issue against a double team to try and score. He always makes the right play and passes. Towns on the other hand is the one that is a black hole on offense with his selfish play. He always tries to drive the ball into double teams and take shots because he is selfish.

I personally wish what you said was true. I prefer my stars to be "black holes". My favorite aspect of Kobe's game was how he attacked double teams. It bothers me that Wiggins is such a unselfish player. Its his biggest weakness IMO. Most superstars are selfish and if Wiggins wants to be a superstar he's gonna need to become the player you think he is right now. He's gonna need to become a black hole and be more selfish rather than always trying to make the right basketball play.
 
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