Its amazing how intelligent old school rappers were at such a young age

[OnlyInCalifornia]

Kane, rakim and krs were all 19 when they debuted.

So, being young and showcasing knowledge of self with maturity was the norm back then.


Art Barr

KRS One was 22 when Criminal Minded came out breh. Big Daddy Kane 20 by the time his album dropped. By that same argument, Kendrick Lamar was 18 when he "debuted" J Cole made his first beat to give to Jay-z, who shunned him, at 17. Lupe Fiasco was 20 when he 'debuted' by re-mixing Sierra Lionne...Eminem was signed when he was 19.....Joey Badass was found at 15....

Some of this has to do with the fact that there were very few 'old rappers' at that point,...some of these guys get their songs plucked by older guys before they earn stripes to come in. Problem from Compton spent years writing for Snoop Dogg before getting a chance on his own, which delayed him from coming out when he was 20. Similar thing happened to Lupe Fiasco, which is where the Jay-z ghost writer comments stem from.

Things look much more distorted when you have rappers still in the game in their 30s and 40s. That wasn't the case then. There was not a bunch of people in the game for 10-15 years by the time those guys came out because the genre was fairly new.

Basically what I am trying to tell you guys is that it's the same, in terms of ages, but some people want to use this as a back handed way to shyt on newer hip hop while looking through the past in nostalgic glasses.

 

[NYK Loyalist]

There's too many factors to cover in a post but some of the reasons are that back in the day hip hop was a small and relatively new genre and you had to be nice to get a deal. As time went on and it became more and more mainstream being a lyricist wasn't as important and in some ways a negative because lyrics don't sell, catchy beats and hooks do.

Once it was realized that hip hop could be a very lucrative business everyone wanted to get in and with the advances in technology anyone could so you have a tons of rappers who could give a fukk about being nice with the pen they are just in it for the money and fame. Some of the songs that have been hits the last 10 + years sound like they are written by kids who are borderline retarded but we live in a dumbed down society where it's all about likes, follows and fukkery so it's basically a sign of the times.

 

[SirBiatch]

where's the rest of your argument?

*crickets*

@LOOPY bailed on his Nas v Chief Keef struggle-argument on some ADHD shyt. Make goat claims but lack the balls/interest to back it up, brehs.
Typical young nikka shyt

 

[Playaz Eyez]

Sometimes it's embarrassing to think about about certain rappers at young ages, but it's more of a sign of the times than anything. Can't expect for Soulja Boy at 18 to be Nas at 18. But still, some dudes I think are genuinely retarded (Lil' Yachty) and are being taken advantage of.

 

[MooseMouthMthafuga]

Pac was only 19 when he wrote these tracks




"In love with a molester who's sexin' her crazy." I have mad love for this line. The whole song is real, don't get me wrong...but this in particular is something that a lot of artists don't do. He sugarcoated nothing. These words stung like nothing else I've ever felt and maybe that's because I've been a victim of similar circumstances, but also because he made no effort to make this easier for anyone to handle hearing. No mercy for the sake of mercy. That's truly beautiful. "Well let me show you how it affects our whole community." This is another line that I found I admired quite a lot. People very rarely see beyond self...and because they don't, nothing is changing. People are so consumed with their own existence that nobody is helping anyone...which ultimately results in criminals walking free. Hell, most are even too self absorbed to think that those criminals may target them...or their children... "Just 'cause you're in the ghetto doesn't mean you can't grow." And finally, that last line that stood out to me- the one part of this song that intended to give the listener hope. The single bit of encouragement and positivity he left as part of this piece, to at the very least remind young women like Brenda that there can be a way out. Sometimes people can't rise from the depths without a hand willing to help lift them up... It felt like this was Tupac's way of saying "I'll be your voice. You're not fighting this by yourself."
No diss to the new cats, but those times were full of substance

 

[Cynic]

Pretty much rode Rakim Allahs wave and got praised for it cause he was a younger lightskin pretty boy from the projects with waves

This n!gga is no sluch and he knows his sh!t... you from the Ch ?

 

[MooseMouthMthafuga]

Niccaz sleep on 2pacalypse Now


come on, now!



Only 19 ...FILTHY!





All fire....every song I posted could've been a single