It's Clear 50 Envied Ja

[dondraper]

because after he destroyed the man's career he jumped right in his line, singing like the cookie monster and doing songs with r&b bytches. The only problem he had with ja was he wanted his success.

 

[10:31]

Smh

More like Irv's business model was very successful and as you can see with Drake is still very successful today..


50 was being smart

 

[Amestafuu (Emeritus)]

Clearly he is just a petty person period.

 

[Steezy]

No doubt about it

 

[The Ruler 09]

I definetly think he envied that success at the time.

 

[No_bammer_weed]

No. 50 didn't envy the man; he envied his position in the industry, and his lane. So 50 set about removing the physical obstacle (Ja), so that he could assume that position, and occupy the lane he desired. Which he did.

 

[Indiglow Meta (R$G)]

50 had melodic music on Power of the dollar. His flow was always like that. Retcons are lame, and you can't envy a construct when you are of the element said construct is imitating. Stop that.

 

[Prince.Skeletor]

Ja was hitting them notes
50 never did

 

[JayGatsby]

Ja was hitting them notes
50 never did

the only time he did was when he was dropping them remixes like "girl give me your number"

song was hot too

 

[VanVanCity]

50's only problem with Ja was his success? nothing to do with robberies, beatings. preme team etc

it was all ja's success that made 50 beef?

 

[Derekjackson2]

Classic example of the audience changing. Ha dominated the charts & people simply wanted a new voice. 50 knew what he was doing & so did interscope.

 

[AJaRuleStan]

I have a completely different read on the situation. At first, I don't think 50 particularly cared about Ja at all. If you listen to the OG version of Your Lifes On the Line, which officially sparked the beef, 50 dissed Mr.Cheeks, Onyx, and Ja. When you take that into consideration, the song plays more as a continuation of 50's naming-names gimmick which he popularized with How To Rob than a singled-out attack on Ja. Thus, it makes more sense to deduce that the song was meant as a spiritual successor to How To Rob but theme'd around known rappers from 50's hood which just so happens to include Ja.

There is also more evidence that bolsters this conclusion too. For one, when Ja asked 50 in ATL why he dissed him, according to Ja, (paraphrasing here) 50 claimed it wasn't personal, the record was just a tool to get his name out there and there is nothing he can do to take it back once it went out. Also, in Be A Gentleman which acts as part 3 in 50's naming-names series in which he focus on Jay-z, he states this -

"No more freestyles and verses killing Sticky and Ja
I'm moving on now, I got bigger fish to fry
Since How to Rob, a lot of nikkas been naming names
Monkey see monkey do, I done changed the game"

Again, I think these bars make it clear that Ja was just a tool 50 could utilize for his own self-interest. I don't think 50 had any personal ill-will or anything against Ja the person, he was just determined to do anything he could possibly do to build a buzz, and at this point in his career, How To Rob was the biggest record he produced so he was focused on recreating that record over and over to sustain that buzz for his LP.

And the only reason why Ja became 50's prime focus later on out of all the dudes he dissed prior was because Ja physical checked him on more than one occasion for his disrespect, and beefing with Ja resulted him being blacked-balled to a degree, stabbed, shot, and chased out of NYC. The hatred stemmed from 50 having to face the consequence of his own actions, unfortunately he ratted as way to escape the beef.

 

[Redwing80]

No. 50 didn't envy the man; he envied his position in the industry, and his lane. So 50 set about removing the physical obstacle (Ja), so that he could assume that position, and occupy the lane he desired. Which he did.

Like what Marlo did to Avon

 

[SpacelySprockets]

I have a completely different read on the situation. At first, I don't think 50 particularly cared about Ja at all. If you listen to the OG version of Your Lifes On the Line, which officially sparked the beef, 50 dissed Mr.Cheeks, Onyx, and Ja. When you take that into consideration, the song plays more as a continuation of 50's naming-names gimmick which he popularized with How To Rob than a singled-out attack on Ja. Thus, it makes more sense to deduce that the song was meant as a spiritual successor to How To Rob but theme'd around known rappers from 50's hood which just so happens to include Ja.

There is also more evidence that bolsters this conclusion too. For one, when Ja asked 50 in ATL why he dissed him, according to Ja, (paraphrasing here) 50 claimed it wasn't personal, the record was just a tool to get his name out there and there is nothing he can do to take it back once it went out. Also, in Be A Gentleman which acts as part 3 in 50's naming-names series in which he focus on Jay-z, he states this -

"No more freestyles and verses killing Sticky and Ja
I'm moving on now, I got bigger fish to fry
Since How to Rob, a lot of nikkas been naming names
Monkey see monkey do, I done changed the game"

Again, I think these bars make it clear that Ja was just a tool 50 could utilize for his own self-interest. I don't think 50 had any personal ill-will or anything against Ja the person, he was just determined to do anything he could possibly do to build a buzz, and at this point in his career, How To Rob was the biggest record he produced so he was focused on recreating that record over and over to sustain that buzz for his LP.

And the only reason why Ja became 50's prime focus later on out of all the dudes he dissed prior was because Ja physical checked him on more than one occasion for his disrespect, and beefing with Ja resulted him being blacked-balled to a degree, stabbed, shot, and chased out of NYC. The hatred stemmed from 50 having to face the consequence of his own actions, unfortunately he ratted as way to escape the beef.

I knew you'd be here typing essays

 

[Prince.Skeletor]

I smell p*ssy
Is that you Drake?