It's crazy Eminem made an album with Just Blaze, DJ Khalil, Havoc, Dre and Boi-1da and it still turned out trash

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KFBF said:
You know what? That's a perfectly reasonable argument. I'll see myself out.
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Be clear though I wasn't trying to trash your opinion just kinda put shyt into perspective.

Even when his music had a little more funk influence nobody was really into Em for his musicality.
 
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Plankton said:
The problem with this board and it's known bias for Em is that other veteran emcees never have their bars dissected like Em. At least Em is known for comedy. So a bar like what you just dissected makes sense
Now I'm not gonna even say who but a veteran emcee just dropped a very hyped album and some of those punches weren't hitting yet dudes were like "oh he still got it lyrically." So when I see this comment the bias stands out because if I went into that hyped veteran albums thread and dissected a bar that wasn't favorable i'd get mobbed and pounced on. I'd be looked at like a troll and a hater. So the hypocrisy stands out. With that said Em's lyrical execution on that song you quoted is top tier and and an example of how he is one if the greatest lyricists in Hip hop history.
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That’s some grandad punchlines though, it’s not witty or good. I’m talking after Em Show he stopped really caring. His fans eat it up regardless.
 
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keond said:
He wasn’t his dj then and this ain’t even a album cut
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Wrong

He was Ems dj around that time.
And You said he never once got a beat from Alc. Obviously he did. The freestyle as it is, is legendary so to say Em never got a beat from Alc is off.
 
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but if paul wall..


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keond said:
How you have Alchemist as your DJ for a decade and never ever once get a beat from him.
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At the time he became Em's DJ it's like his brain wasn't wired to rap like that anymore.

Like spitting to most ALC beats requires using like 2/3' less words than he has been using for a long long time, he would have to revert all the way back to SSLP/MMLP to make proper use of the space in most ALC beats.

Could be done but his OCD ain't gonna allow for that transition to be made quick if ever lol. I think if he was gonna do a full project make it an EP.
 
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I dont like it but it was the right album for his career. Encore kind of underperformed commercially after TES and 8 Mile, Relapse was a flop for the first Eminem album in 5 years, and then this came with 2 huge hits and put him back on the map with the casual white pop listener.

Kamikaze is the one post 8 Mile Eminem album I really like, but it didn't sell at all.
 
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