It's crazy Eminem made an album with Just Blaze, DJ Khalil, Havoc, Dre and Boi-1da and it still turned out trash

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At the time I liked it more than Relapse

Now that some time has passed I'm way more into Relapse

But I won't deny that I had an Eminem Recovery phase
Big facts. Same here. I was a big Just Blaze stan at the time and was really excited that Just was on the album. I like DJ Khalil a lot too. Havoc, of course. Mr. Porter, of course.

And I was glad he wasn't doing the accents...

But in hindsight, Relapse is way doper to me. The accents made for a lot of interesting rhyming possibilities, it was all Dre production, and even with a few misfires, Relapse feels like the last time Em was truly being creative and not giving af what people thought. He and Dre were just locked in.

Everything Em has made ever since Relapse has felt like a response to however the previous album was received by critics or fans.
 
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He also let Beyoncé sound like Skylar Gray :dead:and this was th

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Naa buddy. I saw you dap that comment. You co signed dude but didn't say anything till I pointed out the timeline.

My dude. when Jay Z did Dear Summer in 2005, it was a freestyle over a new Just Blaze beat first, getting play all over Hot 97 and mixtapes way before it was placed on Bleeks 534 album and till this day we count that. I cant see how a freestyle with an unknown Just Blaze beat would count for Jay Z but because this website hates Em the rules change all of a sudden and it doesn't count for Em. Nope, I don't accept that. If it counts for Jay it counts for Em too.




But as it was pointed out, Em did this track with Alc so no more needs to be said on this topic of Em never getting a beat from AL to put on his album.


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Naa buddy. I saw you dap that comment. You co signed dude but didn't say anything till I pointed out the timeline.

My dude. when Jay Z did Dear Summer in 2005, it was a freestyle over a new Just Blaze beat first, getting play all over Hot 97 and mixtapes way before it was placed on Bleeks 534 album and till this day we count that. I cant see how a freestyle with an unknown Just Blaze beat would count for Jay Z but because this website hates Em the rules change all of a sudden and it doesn't count for Em. Nope, I don't accept that. If it counts for Jay it counts for Em too.




But as it was pointed out, Em did this track with Alc so no more needs to be said on this topic of Em never getting a beat from AL to put on his album.


Stepdad is also weird because it's one of the least ALC sounding ALC beats ever made. Eminem and Luis Resto are co-producers too so maybe they added or did some weird shyt to it.
 

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fukk the group think in this thread, Recovery is one of Ems best albums. It came out when Darke and Nicki were the new hype and it delivered. Numerous hit singles. Just a great album from front to back. An album that starts off good and has a good 2nd half. Everything OP said is literally the opposite of what Recovery is. Whenever Wayne is on a track with a real emcee he's always forced to deliver his A game and he did when on that Just Blaze track. Ems lyricism on this album still confirmed him as one if the best emcees in Hip hop history.
Yea I’m prolly the biggest Em fan on here, he is arguably the GOAT lyricist to me. Yea I said it :umad:

And I fukked with Recovery way more than Relapse back when it dropped :sas1:
 

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These are the tracks I don't fukk with:

-Won't Back Down
-W.T.P.
-Space Bound
-Love the Way You Lie
-You're Never Over

By itself, I like the album more than I don't. It's nowhere near as consistent or enjoyable as Relapse, but I get what Eminem was trying to do and it was the kind of album he needed to make. He had to reestablish himself for the newer generation and take advantage of what was out there.

I hate what the album represents because everything wrong with Eminem's music can be traced back to it. Pop features, weird production, screaming, corny punchlines. If it was just a one-off, it would have been fine because a lot of artists felt pressure to put out something trendy and relevant in 2010. But they looked at Recovery's success and thought that this was the direction to stick with. And that's the problem. The album reflected the era it came out perfectly. Then they doubled down on it with MMLP2 when this sound was on its way out, and by the time Revival dropped, Eminem's music was insanely out of step with what was going on in hip hop. He would still be making music like that now if he wasn't laughed at for Revival.

I think the album would be better if they added the bonus tracks ("Ridaz," "Session One"), removed the five tracks I mentioned, and played a little with the sequencing.
Spacebound is kinda dope imo :hubie:
 
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