It's impossible to have morals and integrity yet subscribe to the idea of separating the art from .

[Jalether]

the artist

People who ignored R kelly's crimes for so many years and still continue to support him

Kanye outted himself as a mega c00n and his support among black people remained intact

Trump supporters when confronted use the same justification "I voted for a politician and not a saint"

So do you think it's possible to be of strong moral character and principles yet overlook an artist/athletes major character flaws/crime.

 

[Peruvian Connect]

Yes. We are all flawed. If everyone was called out on their short comings no one would ever achieve shyt.

 

[jerzboy]

I mean, there’s the quote listen to the message, not the messenger... just cause you praise somebody’s art, doesn’t mean you have to praise that individual...

 

[jerzboy]

A better example would be science. There’s cases where ethics are completely aborted and the end goal is to achieve results regardless of those harmed. We praise and love the results but never think of the evil that scientists did or the patients who went thru hell for all of us to get results.

 

[Yinny]

I have a threshold test but I can keep sane to separate the artist, what they’re saying, and what they’re doing and still feel fine.

Kanye more grandstanding idiot than harmful

Cancelled R Kelly after the first trial (2008?) because he was actively harming Black girls never watched the pee vid

Tory I ignored til he faced charges

Cosby didn’t actively watch anyway

Onika, well hers are more idiot crimes so won’t be canceling

general colorisms and misogyny they’re speaking it but doing so among a consenting population, eh.

Joe Budden (abuser) never listened and won’t I don’t like him on top of being a loser

Nas (abuser) believe it but eh stay tuned

can go on these are off the top

 

[Jalether]

Yes. We are all flawed. If everyone was called out on their short comings no one would ever achieve shyt.

Are you seriously comparing little flaws that most humans have like laziness, telling white lies etc with child molestation. Anyone that support (ed) or defend (ed) someone like R kelly is a scum, period

 

[Jalether]

I mean, there’s the quote listen to the message, not the messenger... just cause you praise somebody’s art, doesn’t mean you have to praise that individual...

By consuming their product or buying their album/stream, you are literally supporting them, Woody allen, for example, has stayed relevant and avoided concequences because people continue to
consume his content/movies,

 

[Peruvian Connect]

Are you seriously comparing little flaws that most humans have like laziness, telling white lies etc with child molestation. Anyone that support (ed) or defend (ed) someone like R kelly is a scum, period

There's the problem you justifying what you do, but want to villify others for what they do. Your infractions are minute in your eyes, but others are amplified.

 

[Jalether]

A better example would be science. There’s cases where ethics are completely aborted and the end goal is to achieve results regardless of those harmed. We praise and love the results but never think of the evil that scientists did or the patients who went thru hell for all of us to get results.

But it doesn't answer the question posed, can you be a moral person with principles if you knowingly condone horrific acts. Some people literally only use natural or organic cosmetic product
to avoid product that have undergone animal testing for example.

You can be forgiven if you are genuinely ignorant but what about those that are aware that the product they consumed was created by a dirtbag or created using unethical methods
yet continue to use it.

 

[CouldntBeMeTho]

Naw I disagree. I watch movies, art, tv, made by racist pieces of shyt sometimes. And sometimes it can be quite disheartening,but I still try to enjoy art for arts sake. Even if the person that made it is a complete piece of trash

 

[Jalether]

There's the problem you justifying what you do, but want to villify others for what they do. Your infractions are minute in your eyes, but others are amplified.

So little human flaws are the same as child molesation,rape,murder etc are you being serious right now

 

[Jalether]

Naw I disagree. I watch movies, art, tv, made by racist pieces of shyt sometimes. And sometimes it can be quite disheartening,but I still try to enjoy art for arts sake. Even if the person that made it is a complete piece of trash

But that means you lack principles which is the point of the thread. that's literally what principles means. "I won't consume the work of a racist dirtbag, my principles simply won't let me do it"

 

[Cryptocurrency Scarface]

I have a threshold test but I can keep sane to separate the artist, what they’re saying, and what they’re doing and still feel fine.

Kanye more grandstanding idiot than harmful

Cancelled R Kelly after the first trial (2008?) because he was actively harming Black girls never watched the pee vid

Tory I ignored til he faced charges

Cosby didn’t actively watch anyway

Onika, well hers are more idiot crimes so won’t be canceling

general colorisms and misogyny they’re speaking it but doing so among a consenting population, eh.

Joe Budden (abuser) never listened and won’t I don’t like him on top of being a loser

Nas (abuser) believe it but eh stay tuned

can go on these are off the top

Negged

 

[Peruvian Connect]

..

 

[Dak Pickscott]

you don't throw the baby out with the bath water