Its Mid-2017, Is It Time To Abolish The Tipping Culture?

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And yet you won't be able to find a single waiter who would rather work for salary, unless of course you were paying them an unusually large amount.

You have no ground to stand on. All you're doing is posting articles about bullshyt.

And you have no evidence of that, just a blanket assertion.

Since you refuse to address the points and evidence elaborated on in the article, we're done here. :snooze:
 

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If you were so concerned about waiters having tough jobs and you actually respected what they do, you would support them receiving a fair wage.

Instead, your primary concern is maintaining your power over waiters in the form of arbitrary tips, and maintaining the employers' ability to underpay waiters.

Restaurant workers shouldn't be beholden so much to the vagaries of customers, many of whom use the power of the tip to engage in sexist and racist harassment.

fukk outta here b.
It's a double edged sword, but for many waiters and servers cash in hand and not being forced to claim all of your income is a big plus.

It's common knowledge for people who have worked in the restaurant industry that most people end up losing money when they go from being a top server/bartender to an assistant manager position.
 

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It's a double edged sword, but for many waiters and servers cash in hand and not being forced to claim all of your income is a big plus.

It's common knowledge for people who have worked in the restaurant industry that most people end up losing money when they go from being a top server/bartender to an assistant manager position.

My primary concern is ensuring all restaurant workers get at least the regular minimum wage. They can receive service-based tips on top of that. But their livelihoods shouldn't be beholden to the vagaries of customers, many of whom, as I said earlier, sexually and racially harass waiters.
 

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My primary concern is ensuring all restaurant workers get at least the regular minimum wage. They can receive service-based tips on top of that. But their livelihoods shouldn't be beholden to the vagaries of customers, many of whom, as I said earlier, sexually and racially harass waiters.
I agree. It's been a while since I've been in the Industry, but when I left if you didn't hit MW for a pay period your paycheck would be adjusted.

Unfortunately MW is so low and server shifts are so short and bartender shifts are so long they'll usually hit them anyway.
 

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My primary concern is ensuring all restaurant workers get at least the regular minimum wage. They can receive service-based tips on top of that. But their livelihoods shouldn't be beholden to the vagaries of customers, many of whom, as I said earlier, sexually and racially harass waiters.
:duck:

This sure is a long way of saying "I don't want to have to tip.

If you're so concerned about their well being then why would you be in favor of a compensation structure where they earn less money :duck:.
 

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Tipping shouldn't be expected and employers should pay living wages regardless of the industry. Customers shouldn't subsidize employers via tipping so employers can underpay workers.

exactly. Why the fukk does every other nation have it right. Pay your waiters and waitresses decently and you won't have this fukkin problem.
 
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Japan has much better service then America, yet they are offended if you offer a tip, they consider it a bribe.
 

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Being a Best Buy employee requires much less effort and much less skill than a food server.

You also aren't serving someone hand and foot, literally.
:mjlol:

Ya'll really think a job a 15 year old could do off the street in a week or so is some benchmark of skill or effort. I tip because I'm in the cosmetics industry and those tips literally got me my licence in school. But we provide actual services that take 600ish hours to learn and not any old person can do. The girl I'm dating swear up and down hard it is to work in a cafe and I'm like aight, you have to memorize a menu and suck up to old cacs. That's just an insurmountable task to average human:ehh:


tip because you want to but stop acting like these nikkas are in some ridiculously hard field. And shyt in minnesota they get mandated minimum wage plus tips so most servers making over 15 anyway:yeshrug:
 

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when waiters are given incentive you receive better service.

if you pay them a flat wage that means they have no incentive to go above and beyond, which means you don't receive the same service.

also waiting tables is a very demanding job, not everyone can do it well. it requires a lot of patience, memorization and multitasking. the only reason people apply is because they have the opportunity to make good money. if you make it less desirable to be a waiter you're going to see more unqualified people being given waitering jobs... i.e. the people you would never want serving you in the first place.

the moral of the story is don't be a cheap fukk. leave a tip for service.

Son people are cheap fukks.
 
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