C'mon Breh!
record without Brady is 51-65 record WITH Brady 150-43Even Belicheck would give you the
face
It's never been about Peyton vs. Brady...It's BEEN about Manning the OC vs. Bill Belichek the DC
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C'mon Breh!
record without Brady is 51-65 record WITH Brady 150-43Even Belicheck would give you the
face
What hall of famers are you speaking of? How many HOF has Brady played with compared to Peyton?
NYC Rebel
...on the otherside of the pond
In my opinion its wrong to bring that other stuff but you can do what you want. IMO, all it does is weaken your main argument by clouding the point, unless Peyton Manning being the "OC" was your point.
By any chance do you know who this is?
You've yet to demonstrate HOW other than saying it does. Show how
NYC Rebel
...on the otherside of the pond
This discredits what he did as a giant DC TO Walsh's offenses?C'mon Breh!
Even Belicheck would give you the
And of NOT which I KNOW you agree I'm wrong for to what Beli has done to other HOF coaches and qbs???
This discredits what he did as a giant DC TO Walsh's offenses?
It doesn't, but it discredits your initial point of this thread. When dirty Bernard Pollard tore Brady ACL the 18-1 Patriots missed the Playoffs that year with one of the easiest schedules in the League.
Case in point Jimmy Graham this year.
Beli consistently adjusting to his strengths every week is the reason why he's the best coach in the NFL.
NYC Rebel
...on the otherside of the pond
Lol at "it discredits your initial point" without showing how. lol
The result of this thread is how.
Its now another Brady vs Manning discussion instead of being focused around a very legitimate point.
NYC Rebel
...on the otherside of the pond
The OP isn't in anyway a novel concept. In every game it's one QB going against the other defense. I don't see the unique point being made here at all. It's common sense that Belli is a legend and that vs. match ups don't make all that sense when people aren't playing against each other. I think he slightly undermines his point creating a hypothetical where Brady would struggle against Bellicheck's defenses because that is indirectly comparing the two players while claiming that isn't what the thread is about. But besides that, Bellicheck had great players on defense and was able to scheme accordingly. Takeaway those great players and we have seen his defenses struggle (though he gets more out of them than anyone else). Your point is basically about what an elite QB would do against Bellicheck defenses sporting Wilfork, Seymour, Ty Law and WIllie McGinest or the LT's of the world...no shyt it would be a struggle for anyone. Yet, we saw Jake Delhomme light up the Patriots defense in the SB. It's not some impossible feat, and we have no evidence that Brady would have the same amount of difficulty doing it as Peyton. So that should not have been suggested. Peyton in recent years is better against the Ravens than Brady, and Brady always shytted on the Steelers to an extent Peyton did not.
So let's give Tom Brady prime Marvin Harrison, Reggie Wayne, the Colts O-line, prime Edgerrin James, Stokley in the slot, pollard at TE and see if he wouldn't be able to eventually crack a Bellicheck defense after seeing him two times a year every year (regular season and playoffs). There's no evidence to support that. We've seen bum ass Jets and Bills teams find ways to open up Bellicheck defenses just off of familiarity. Last, this Peyton Manning is the "only QB\O-coordinator" in the league statement is pretty funny. He does nothing on a Sunday since Charlie Weis left that Brady doesn't do. Nothing. There is a reason that Tom Brady is the guy who Peyton Manning calls (because surprising to most, they're boys) when discussing how to break down an opponent.
Ask Dungy:
It is always about the offense vs. the defense, but let's not go further than that and get into unfounded hypotheticals.
So let's give Tom Brady prime Marvin Harrison, Reggie Wayne, the Colts O-line, prime Edgerrin James, Stokley in the slot, pollard at TE and see if he wouldn't be able to eventually crack a Bellicheck defense after seeing him two times a year every year (regular season and playoffs). There's no evidence to support that. We've seen bum ass Jets and Bills teams find ways to open up Bellicheck defenses just off of familiarity. Last, this Peyton Manning is the "only QB\O-coordinator" in the league statement is pretty funny. He does nothing on a Sunday since Charlie Weis left that Brady doesn't do. Nothing. There is a reason that Tom Brady is the guy who Peyton Manning calls (because surprising to most, they're boys) when discussing how to break down an opponent.
Ask Dungy:
It is always about the offense vs. the defense, but let's not go further than that and get into unfounded hypotheticals.
That debate is occurring because of how you shaped your convoluted "one main point"
Your title has "Peyton vs Brady" in it and you're wondering why people are talking about that. lol
You also seem to think that because you present one valid point about heads up QB comparisons that people are going to accept this complete bullshyt about Peyton Manning being a true OC and the only QB that you could possibly compare to "Belichek".
