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There's always an excuse. At the end of the day those fighters were there and he didn't fight them. He fought an older Mosley later on but yeah. He picked opponents to make big money and build his brand - he still didn't fight the best available and that is why his resume is shyt.

:laff::laff::laff::laff::laff:

I swear you white. :laff::laff::laff:
 

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I agree with all this.



I'm not going to say that Floyd was "scared" though....that's a little too far.

I see what u up too breh :patrice:

WHy u so shook now brehbreh ?

You know the hate is gonna be worse for Broner right ? Be ready :ahh:
 
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There's always an excuse. At the end of the day those fighters were there and he didn't fight them. He fought an older Mosley later on but yeah. He picked opponents to make big money and build his brand - he still didn't fight the best available and that is why his resume is shyt.

Mosley ducked Floyd for years , Cotto was shook after the destruction of
Gatti it took years before he was "ready" for Floyd and it as well as the Margarito didnt happen because Mayweather turns down $8 million to fight Margarito - boxing - ESPN


The reason Mayweather opted for the buyout rather than waiting for the May 6 result was because the contract had a limited window for the buyout, one that expired before the De La Hoya fight. However, Arum said he would have extended the window if Mayweather had asked. What Arum wouldn't do, he said, was raise the guarantees for other fights outlined in the contract.

Arum said while Mayweather would have taken the $8 million to fight Margarito, he asked for a $10 million guarantee to fight opponents such as Miguel Cotto and Ricky Hatton, when Arum was only willing to guarantee $7 million.

Arum said Mayweather also asked for $20 million to fight De La Hoya, a fight Arum said he wasn't interested in participating in.

"That's not in the cards," Arum said. "He wants $20 million for the De La Hoya fight? It's not there. Sometimes, my man, you gotta know when to hold 'em and when to fold 'em. We'll talk about things down the road."
 

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Mosley ducked Floyd for years , Cotto was shook after the destruction of
Gatti it took years before he was "ready" for Floyd and it as well as the Margarito didnt happen because Mayweather turns down $8 million to fight Margarito - boxing - ESPN


The reason Mayweather opted for the buyout rather than waiting for the May 6 result was because the contract had a limited window for the buyout, one that expired before the De La Hoya fight. However, Arum said he would have extended the window if Mayweather had asked. What Arum wouldn't do, he said, was raise the guarantees for other fights outlined in the contract.

Arum said while Mayweather would have taken the $8 million to fight Margarito, he asked for a $10 million guarantee to fight opponents such as Miguel Cotto and Ricky Hatton, when Arum was only willing to guarantee $7 million.

Arum said Mayweather also asked for $20 million to fight De La Hoya, a fight Arum said he wasn't interested in participating in.

"That's not in the cards," Arum said. "He wants $20 million for the De La Hoya fight? It's not there. Sometimes, my man, you gotta know when to hold 'em and when to fold 'em. We'll talk about things down the road."
I'm talking about Mosley at welterweight. They were shenanigans with both fighters before that but at welterweight I don't remember him ducking him. Everyone brings up the tooth ache but Floyd was no angel in that whole deal.

The rest of the talk is about money and politics. I understand it. But it hurt his legacy - that's my point. People question his hunger after lightweight and it's legitimate.
 

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I'm talking about Mosley at welterweight. They were shenanigans with both fighters before that but at welterweight I don't remember him ducking him. Everyone brings up the tooth ache but Floyd was no angel in that whole deal.

The rest of the talk is about money and politics. I understand it. But it hurt his legacy - that's my point. People question his hunger after lightweight and it's legitimate.

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Rocky Marciano's 49-0 record is one of the most overrated (cac) records out there.
 

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It's amazing people talk about the competition he's fought...


Let's just say you threw Sugar Ray Leonard in there with him.. What advantages does he have over floyd?


Reach = Leonard
Speed = Lets say Draw
Power = Leonard


That's where it stops.... Floyds advantages:


Accuracy = By a lot
Defense = By a FEW Miles
Smarts = Floyd
Boxing Technique = Floyd



So 3 inches of reach, and a little more power will OVERCOME all this? F*ck outta here.


I could see if somebody can say "floyd has no heart" ... Floyd got ROCKED by Mosley, in the same round, TWICE, for the FIRST TIME EVER....



If Floyd had Lebron's mental strength, he would have folded and got knocked out...


He came back and DOMINATED the fight.... That lets me believe he has more of a Jordan mentality.



Think about it... You've been fighting your ENTIRE LIFE... And the FIRST TIME you feel some adversity, on this HUGE stage... A LOT OF PEOPLE would have folded... Would have lost their focus and PANICKED...


FLoyd NOT doing that, let me know all I need to know about him.


Floyd would be hell for ANYBODY and ANY ERA, so stop talking about the dumb shyt that he hasn't fought nobody.
 

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dawg, you embarrassing yourself man. Please stop posting about a sport you know 0 about. it's disgusting.

FYI, Floyd fought once a year because he had a bruised right hip and his right hand is a mess. He been declining surgery for years so the safest way would be to fight once a year, which he did.

Pac said he was scared of needles, then wanted a 30 day curt off then a 21 day cut off. then no test on fight day at all. :deadmanny:

That negga was juicing hardbody. Also, Pac fought Mosley, DLH, Hatton after FLoyd and drained most of em. You saw how many punches Pac landed on a CLottey with decent defense and was not countering PAc breh. That was even after HBO boosted Pac's stats :lolbron:

Got a link to that? Please, I'd love to see where Manny says hes scared of needles.
 

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ok

Paul WIlliams---- FLoyd told him to get a little more popular and he'll fight him cuz nobody knew P Will except for heavy boxing fans

Cotto--- Refused to fight FLoyd and said he was not ready. Cotto even said so himself

Margarito---- Wanted FLoyd and Floyd was gonna fight him until Arum said Floyd gotta sign an extension (3 or 5 years) with Top Rank to get that fight for 8 mil. That extension would have taken him out the DLH fight. Biggest non Heavyweight fight to date because Arum told Floyd he has no intentions in making that fight with DLH cuz DLH deceived him and trynna steal his fighters.

So, if you were in FLoyd shoes, you woulda signed that extension and passed on 20+ mil and take 8 mil before Arum gets his cut ? You know that Floyd has only ducked Top Rank fighters right ? :laugh:

Also, Arum did well in using FLoyd to promote his fighters. Floyd plays the villain and he puts Pac there as the nice, generous guy with a family who flies with 20 leeches. Good strategy. However, you dumb neggas believe his stories and Floyd been ducking his fighters right? :snoop:

Floyd after the Hatton fight, "I'm not trying to fight no welterweights". Looks like he wasn't really lying.
 

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It's amazing people talk about the competition he's fought...


Let's just say you threw Sugar Ray Leonard in there with him.. What advantages does he have over floyd?


Reach = Leonard
Speed = Lets say Draw
Power = Leonard


That's where it stops.... Floyds advantages:


Accuracy = By a lot
Defense = By a FEW Miles
Smarts = Floyd
Boxing Technique = Floyd



So 3 inches of reach, and a little more power will OVERCOME all this? F*ck outta here.


I could see if somebody can say "floyd has no heart" ... Floyd got ROCKED by Mosley, in the same round, TWICE, for the FIRST TIME EVER....



If Floyd had Lebron's mental strength, he would have folded and got knocked out...


He came back and DOMINATED the fight.... That lets me believe he has more of a Jordan mentality.



Think about it... You've been fighting your ENTIRE LIFE... And the FIRST TIME you feel some adversity, on this HUGE stage... A LOT OF PEOPLE would have folded... Would have lost their focus and PANICKED...


FLoyd NOT doing that, let me know all I need to know about him.


Floyd would be hell for ANYBODY and ANY ERA, so stop talking about the dumb shyt that he hasn't fought nobody.

Sugar Ray said "if you want to hit Floyd you have to aim at the top of his head, going for the jaw is a big msitake" I'm sure he seen the shoulder roll long enough to know how to break it.
 

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Who is the best opponent Floyd's beaten in the last ten years?

Only knock on Floyd's whole career is fighting in an era where boxing is pretty much dead compared to the NFL and the NBA... imagine him with duran and srl :wow:

Thing is, I think he could have definitely fought in that era but I don't think he'd be #1 P4P over Leonard at that particular time. I wouldn't be overly floored if he were to beat Duran (at Welterweight). There were guys during his era too I would've loved to have seen him fight (Prime Margarito, Prime Cotto, Kosta Tzsyu, Prime Casamayor, Younger Mosley, Pacquiao in 2010). It's not really all his fault why some of these fights weren't made, but it comes down to how the Business is today and how fighters today take advantage of maybe making the right "business decisions" over a meaningful yet still lucrative fight that may have some risk. I mean think about it, this fight with Canelo for Floyd is the 1st time (at least to me) in a long while where there are some odds stacked against Floyd making the fight pretty intriguing...and Floyd is 36 years old. Call it being too good for the fighters of this era, or fighting the right guys at the right time. Take your pick. :manny:
 

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Thing is, I think he could have definitey fought in that era but I don't think he'd be #1 P4P over Leonard at that particular time. I wouldn't be overly floored if he were to beat Duran (at Welterweight). There were guys during his era too I would've loved to have seen him fight (Prime Margarito, Prime Cotto, Kosta Tzsyu, Prime Casamayor, Younger Mosley, Pacquiao in 2010). It's not really all his fault why some of these fights weren't made, but it comes down to how the Business is today and how fighters today take advantage of maybe making the right "business decisions" over a meaningful yet still lucrative fight that may have some risk. I mean think about it, this fight with Canelo for Floyd is the 1st time (at least to me) in a long while where there are some odds stacked against Floyd making the fight pretty intriguing...and Floyd is 36 years old. Call it being too good for the fighters of this era, or fighting the right guys at the right time. Take your pick. :manny:

Floydie could have made every last one of those fights happen... and yes it is all his fault... ran from a prime cotto used arum as an excuse.. ran from Pacquiao used OSDT and Arum as an excuse... ran from prime Mosley, we like to use the toothache as an excuse even though Shane had fought twice that year already and said he would fight Floydie anytime after that year was up.. ducked Margerito used Arum and not enough money as an excuse even though the nikka last fight only did 375k ppv #s ...
 
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