It's Official from MS: Free Dedicated Servers for Devs

[Rekkapryde]

http://majornelson.com/2013/10/17/x...osting-to-our-xbox-one-development-community/



Damn @satam55 and @Rekkapryde Yall was wrong. You cant beat FREE!

1) I read this earlier this week...took you long enough...

2) Again, not everyone will use it (EA has their own dedi server network, Activision.... )

3) Won't be free forever

4) Great for those who need it.

Nice gesture. Oldest marketing hustle. Get em hooked, then make em pay later. There's a reason their Servers and tools division is the fastest growing sector of their business. (and much more profitable than the division where the Xbox biz lies)

I see you MS.

 

[Smooth3d]

1) I read this earlier this week...took you long enough... :mjpls

2) Again, not everyone will use it (EA has their own dedi server network, Activision.... )

3) Won't be free forever

4) Great for those who need it.

Nice gesture.

even you have to admit that Sony's online is looking flabby & sick right now comparatively.

 

[el_oh_el]

I won't sit back and hate. This is a major advantage for Xbox games.
Is it free forever? Or just a trial period? Cause if it's not, I don't see many devs using it unless they can afford it












They need all the advantages they can get :trollbron:

This is going to be important with the size of these games... I'm honestly scared for online gaming on ps4. They have not done anything to upgrade this crap and upgrades are necessary. Its like that IGN twitter poll of what excites people about the ps4... its really nothing to be excited about.

Oh shyt..we got a sony employee here! This dude knows Sonys every move..he has to to work for them. Otherwise, he's talking out his ass (as usual)

 

[Rekkapryde]

even you have to admit that Sony's online is looking flabby & sick right now comparatively.

As long as I can play my games with no issues, I'm good. It's really not a hard concept.

Now if I run into a game that needs dedi servers and Sony has no offering, I'll be upset. So far so good on the games I want (BF4, KZSF).

 

[Loose]

As long as I can play my games with no issues, I'm good. It's really not a hard concept.

Now if I run into a game that needs dedi servers and Sony has no offering, I'll be upset. So far so good on the games I want (BF4, KZSF).

KZSF does not have dedicated servers , the servers don't run much of the game logic console still do.

 

[Smooth3d]

I won't sit back and hate. This is a major advantage for Xbox games.
Is it free forever? Or just a trial period? Cause if it's not, I don't see many devs using it unless they can afford it












They need all the advantages they can get :trollbron:



Oh shyt..we got a sony employee here! This dude knows Sonys every move..he has to to work for them. Otherwise, he's talking out his ass (as usual)

Actually I not trying to hate at all. But ms has been looking real impressive lately. The online should be on point. Games are looking better than expected.

As long as I can play my games with no issues, I'm good. It's really not a hard concept.

Now if I run into a game that needs dedi servers and Sony has no offering, I'll be upset. So far so good on the games I want (BF4, KZSF).

Well I obviously dont know their long term strategy but even if it is free for a time period, MS said it would always be a cheap solution. So we shall see. Sony need to step up the game on advertisement and explaining its features to get the masses hyped.

 

[Rekkapryde]

KZSF does not have dedicated servers , the servers don't run much of the game logic console still do.

Yes it does have dedi servers (not in the "traditional" sense)
the game runs locally on your console, not the host
the host console keeps track of the score
there is no host advantage
the setup reduces/eliminates lag

^
that's everything you want with a traditional dedicated server setup.

"Boltjes confirmed that Shadow Fall will have dedicated servers. However, the servers will only act as a hub between different game clients and any game logic will not be hosted on the servers. “Almost all logic relating to you (e.g. moving, shooting and taking damage) runs on your local PS4,” stated Boltjes, “with only a very small portion of the game logic (i.e. mission/scoring logic) running on the ‘session master’, one PS4 in the game selected for its connection quality.”"

If the game was straight peer 2 peer, I'd be upset, but we good.

 

[Rekkapryde]

The advantage with this is that other devs who used traditional p2p network coding for their online multiplayer can eat now on the Xbox. Someone like Insomniac with Sunset Overdrive will benefit along with others who don't have their own dedi network setup. I'm trying to think of other games coming out that might use it...

 

[Loose]

Yes it does have dedi servers (not in the "traditional" sense)
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it doesn't have dedicated servers it has hybrid p2p servers. consoles will still run most game logic, their will still be NAT issues among other lag issues. basically the same server setup as kz2.

 

[Rekkapryde]

it doesn't have dedicated servers it has hybrid p2p servers. consoles will still run most game logic, their will still be NAT issues among other lag issues. basically the same server setup as kz2.

the new setup kills host advantage, and lag because you're running the shyt from your local machine, not the host. the only ones who suffer are those with poorer connections and even then it's no where near as bad as traditonal p2p setups

We good.

 

[PS5 Pro]

W.L.I.M. THE NEW ANGLE

Its funny (mostly sad) that everytime Xbox gains another advantage the 3cepts go extra hard to discredit it
The Cloud is a joke right At E3, remember how fast they was switching? Nope, he had a remote in his pocket

Snap features wasn't fully functional and they was like "It'll never work smooth"
I recall Rekka going "You can't change the channel that fast "

Well, it seems that the butthurt 3cepts have adopted a new angle of tears. Lets take a look see...

3) Won't be free forever

Now that these dudes are accepting what Microsoft said back in MAY (dedicated servers for all games)
Now Rekka and gang think developers have only one year to use em for free. I guess before it raises up to more free? Its been free since May, he just learned earlier this week somehow
And now he's trying to tell you how long, and how much. Ok, back up your dumbass claim Rekkagump

I won't sit back and hate. This is a major advantage for Xbox games.
Is it free forever? Or just a trial period? Cause if it's not, I don't see many devs using it unless they can afford it

Wow, these dudes are relentless with there L's. Its common knowledge now, but here they are still trying to create victories out of losses
Why are you acting confused on this issue? You taking Rekkafacts as fact again are you

the new setup kills host advantage, and lag because you're running the shyt from your local machine, not the host. the only ones who suffer are those with poorer connections and even then it's no where near as bad as traditonal p2p setups

We good.

Hashtag #Rekkafacts

Ok Rekka, you been saying this dumbshyt for about a month now. I haven't seen it myself, but I heard you learned of this on Neogaf, and that neogaf dissected and trashed your theory on that dedicated server shyt you talking about for KZ. Thats why ppl keep telling you your lying. So it would only make sense if you teach us all what you learned and where did you learn it from? Educate us so we don't remain misinformed. On the xbox side, we don't like to spread misinformation so please correct us sir

 

[Mass]

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