(It's probably completely bullshyt) Daniel Bryan to be released?

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Contradicting himself as always.
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He carried the E because he was the only one allowed to do so. Even when he wasn't champion he was the focal point. By mania 22 they were already turning on him, the crowd in Chicago was firmly behind your boy Trips. Why do think he's getting all these injuries all of a sudden? They have depended on him for far too long.
By summer slam 2005 is when the crowd turned on him. Go watch survivor series 2005 and see how decidedly against him the crowd is. The tide began turning after the Y2cheap promo he cut in July.
 

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No one pays money and buys a ticket just to boo Cena. They pay money to watch wrestling, because they're wrestling fans. They boo Cena because they dont like what he and the company are doing.


But still attend the event despite him. The same way people in this thread still watch despite not liking him. So why bring up paying customers booing? How do determine how many fans stop paying/viewing simply due to him versus how many watch because of him? What algorithm do you use?

Overall ratings instead of segment ratings?
Crowd/viewer reactions?
Dwindling pop culture references of the company as a whole
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But still attend the event despite him. The same way people in this thread still watch despite not liking him. So why bring up paying customers booing? How do determine how many fans stop paying/viewing simply due to him versus how many watch because of him? What algorithm do you use?

Overall ratings instead of segment ratings?
Crowd/viewer reactions?
Dwindling pop culture references of the company as a whole
:ehh:
Same thing we always measured...ratings, buyrates, and arena sell outs.
 

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Same thing we always measured...ratings, buyrates, and arena sell outs.

Other than segment ratings and merch, you can't isolate the effect one wrestler has on the company a whole. And in at least one of those areas cena would come out on top of his co-workers.(not sure about ratings tbh)

I'm just disputing the notion that the company is worse with cena, than without him.

The company not being as popular ≠ cena loses more fans for the company than he gains them.

Anyways, let's talk about Bryan again. Cena got brought up and derailed the thread.
 

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Other than segment ratings and merch, you can't isolate the effect one wrestler has on the company a whole. And in at least one of those areas cena would come out on top of his co-workers.(not sure about ratings tbh)

I'm just disputing the notion that the company is worse with cena, than without him.

The company not being as popular ≠ cena loses more fans for the company than he gains them.

Anyways, let's talk about Bryan again. Cena got brought up and derailed the thread.

We always did when it came to Austin and Rock...now SUDDENLY Cena is exempt? I know this era breeds soft fans and wrestlers but that's not the way it works.
 

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But still attend the event despite him. The same way people in this thread still watch despite not liking him. So why bring up paying customers booing? How do determine how many fans stop paying/viewing simply due to him versus how many watch because of him? What algorithm do you use?

Overall ratings instead of segment ratings?
Crowd/viewer reactions?
Dwindling pop culture references of the company as a whole
:ehh:
Im not sure what point you're trying to make with this. Use whatever measure you'd like, it all tells the same story. Business is a shell of what it once was, the product is low quality from an artistic standpoint and professional wrestling has regressed back from mainstream sensation to embarrassing child's hobby, as it was in the mid-90's.

Trying to argue that crowds booing the fukk out your "top guy" for years is somehow insignificant, is nonsense. Crowds booing means unhappy customers. Unhappy customers means less repeat customers
Less repeat customers means a smaller core audience, and that means less business and all of the things mentioned above. When the top of your card is super over, it trickles down to every other act in the company. When the top of the card is a corny, lukewarm joke, and thats held up and the current pinnacle of the industry, fans look at each other and say "why do we even watch this?" And so one day, they stop.

Dont tell me it doesnt happen. I personally, as well as every wrestling fan I knew from the Attitude Era, stopped watching long ago specifically when goofy shyt like Cena became the focus of the company.
 
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