Its sad it’s still grown black men thinking the democrats will save them

[Born2BKing]

Every democratic administration has grown the economy and the quality of life for the average American. Every worker protection we have today largely came from democratic institutions.

“Hold them accountable” is a meaningless phrase bothsiders bandy about. You can’t even define what holding them accountable means. Not voting? That’s working out so well.


What’s funny is you would never in a million years hear a white person telling another white person the solution to defeating the democrats is “not voting”

@ORDER_66 These not tangibles?

 

[Still Benefited]

Yes Obama signed the Blue alert law to protect police officers in 2015
Dead in the middle of a slew of police shootings that targeted black people...

@Turtle @Elim Garak

President Obama is the reason we got body cameras


"in December 2014 Obama proposed a $263 million initiative to fund 50,000 body-worn cameras for local police departments. This program sought to enhance accountability, transparency, and trust between law enforcement and communities, following protests in Ferguson, Missouri.
Key details regarding the initiative:
Funding Initiative: The proposal included $75 million for the purchase of cameras, part of a larger 3-year, $263 million package for police training and reform.
Pilot Program: In May 2015, the Department of Justice announced over $23 million in funding to 73 local and tribal agencies for a Body-Worn Camera Pilot Partnership Program.
Focus on Accountability: The initiative was designed to address "simmering distrust" between police and communities by providing objective evidence for police-citizen encounters.
Impact: By 2016, this federal push contributed to nearly half of all U.S. local police departments using body cameras, with about 70% of large departments using them. "





Yet your telling black folks to be upset about Obama approving a Blue Alert Law


"The National Blue Alert Act of 2015 created a national system to speed the apprehension of violent suspects who kill or seriously injure law enforcement officers. Similar to AMBER alerts, Blue Alerts use technology to warn the public, utilizing highway signs, radio, and cellphones to disseminate information when an officer is killed, injured, or missing. "



People may not have liked the timing. But theres nothing wrong with that law. And the body cams are of 10 times the value of that blue alert law to black people. Basically not too much on Obama or Mrs Obama. The rest of the Dems deserve every bit of criticism. But tearing down a righteous black man who was also the first black president? Couldnt be more off code

 

[MMS]

There are probably a million things that can be done to fix the problem. But do Democrats have the foggiest idea on how to tackle the problem?

I watched a video on what's going on in Maryland with outrageous Utility bills. And the Democrats are completely clueless on what to do about lowering costs. All there talking about is doing adding more renewable energy? Yet are pushing for this monstrosity that uses God knows how much electricity. While people are stuck paying energy bills the size of a mortgage payment.



Maryland is getting a Sphere — and wasting millions in public subsidies

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2026/01/27/sphere-maryland-national-harbor-pg-subsidies/

for the record ive supported dem programs in the past (i was a big fan of obamas expansion of the pell grant)

but yeah the "party" is incapable of actually changing their narrative because fundamentally they are getting their money from corporate lobbyists who setting the narrative for them

until that shifts and they are willing to lose donation money for other causes you're likely not to hear any novel ideas

 

[MegaManX]

you mind telling us what not voting for them will do?

This is the big problem with smart dumb nikkas.

"Democrats won't save you."

Choice between serial killer klansmen neighbor or quirky selfish neighbor, but you MUST choose one.

Smart dumb nikkas "I wont choose either, even though I know for a fact if I don't choose, the choice will be made for me and one of them will definitely target and kill me and my family while the other will not help me cut my lawn. Gonna flip the coin here instead of avoid the WORST POSSIBLE OUTCOME."

Republicans and democrats are the same when it comes to serving big money interests. THEY ARE NOT THE SAME when it comes to the everyday lives of americans.

Democrats will help the people if it doesnt piss off rich people. Republicans will do everything they can to make your life worse and specifically ruin your life if you are black.

How is this even a debate.

 

[I Really Mean It]

And what are the Democrats doing to offer any type of real opposition? They are controlled opposition.

who cares?

have you not seen what’s happened in the past year?

is it not obvious that black america would be in a far better state if kamala had won and democrats were in control of congress and the supreme court?

are you oblivious to the statistical reality of our community’s declining quality of life under this administration?

 

[JT-Money]

for the record ive supported dem programs in the past (i was a big fan of obamas expansion of the pell grant)

but yeah the "party" is incapable of actually changing their narrative because fundamentally they are getting their money from corporate lobbyists who setting the narrative for them

until that shifts and they are willing to lose donation money for other causes you're likely not to hear any novel ideas

I wouldn't pay these Utility Bills off general principle. You send me a $2,000/mo bill you may as well send it directly to collections.

 

[MMS]

I wouldn't pay these Utility Bills off general principle. You send me a $2,000/mo bill you may as well send it directly to collections.

what are you distilling moonshine in your basement? da fukk

 

[Pull Up the Roots]

Exactly, anytime I make a thread about poor Ados/fba people they pull out the bootstrap babble.

Post a link to those threads. Because the threads I see you making are always blaming immigrants instead of confronting what's really driving poverty.

DNColi always turns into a bunch of right wing bootstrappers anytime you actually ask for progressive policies that will make life easier from a Democrat.

This is a lie. You're an actual right-winger. You're the one with the history of doing this. Just because you changed your names from TK Smart, to Chillin, to what you have now, and hid your profile don't mean people forgot that, especially your defense of Candace Owens' Blexit and Brandon Straka's "walk away" as good faith attempts to get Black people to vote. You also have a history of downplaying voter suppression, and argueing in favor of voter ID laws.

You never explained why your account was dormant for years, either.

https://www.thecoli.com/threads/why-is-it-controversial-to-have-an-id-to-vote.917297/

What are you talking about? Y'all sound dumb ass hell being against IDs to vote.

Why would someone claiming to support progressive policies be arguing in favor of Voter ID laws, knowing how they're weaponized to disenfranchise Black voters? Why would someone Black be making that argument?

Half these people in here just anti Voter IDs because RePuBlicaNs. If Democrats were pro needing IDs to vote y'all would fall right in line.

Yadayadayada voter suppression yadadada c00n yadayada cOnservATIves. These on brand ass clowns are all the same. Guaranteed if the party lines on this topic switched so would their opinions. It ain't that deep, get an ID or don't be allowed to make any kind of decision that could potentially impact my life. Miss me with your low level party line nonsense. Got your capes on for whole functioning ass adults that can't even get a state ID. FOH

Why would someone supportive of progressives policies downplay voter suppression like this? Why would someone claiming to be Black do this, knowing this country's history? And how they scheme?

Spoiler: Link to the thread plus info that proved Voter ID laws are a solution searching for a problem and are racist.

https://www.thecoli.com/threads/why-is-it-controversial-to-have-an-id-to-vote.917297/post-45973221

Getting a photo ID so you can vote is easy. Unless you’re poor, black, Latino or elderly.

What Effect Will Shuttering Alabama DMV Offices Have on Black Voters? The state has a strict voter ID law, yet more than 30 offices, many of them across the “Black Belt,” are set to close.

A comprehensive investigation of voter impersonation finds 31 credible incidents out of one billion ballots cast.

Why Voter ID Laws Aren’t Really about Fraud | FRONTLINE | PBS | Official Site | Documentary Series

Proponents say these laws ensure election integrity, but a FRONTLINE analysis found that ID requirements aren't applied equally to all voters.

www.pbs.org

In a thread asking why no one runs "don't vote" campaigns on white people:

That was still just a small amount of really loud people online. Turnout was high among Bernie voters in the 2016 general.

I have never seen a mainstream campaign like blexit or walk away that targets white people/republicans.

Blexit and walk away are two movements about getting black people to vote and have nothing to do with the premise of this topic

What? No the fukk they weren't. Walk away was started by that racist Brandon Straka and Blexit was being pushed by Candace Owens and those TPUSA losers.

Yeah they are trying to get black people to vote Republican. This topic is about movements trying to get black people to not vote altogether

This dude was actually treating two of the biggest MAGA propagandists as good faith actors, ignoring how they targeted Black people with disinformation designed to drive apathy and make them stay home. This wasn't no "vote for Republicans" campaign, it was one where the preferred outcome was just staying home. All of the disinformation they put out was designed to achieve that goal.

Same with Trump and we see what happened there with Project2025.

I'm not voting for 45 as I wasn't impressed by his first presidency and think a second one will be more of the same, but I do know he's publicly denounced that project 2025 policy you're speaking on.

Why would a supposedly Black person who supports progressive policies take Trump at his word?

Spoiler

When I have kids I'ma definitely try to arrange their marriages for them. They can say no, but then they'll be missing out on my inheritance money or any kind of financial support. And if you file for divorce, you're definitely cut off from my family. I really really like the idea of excommunicating people who file for divorce.

Not sure where the insult is coming from because for one my LinkedIn vs your LinkedIn I guarantee there's not a soul on the planet that'll think I'm the dumb one in this equation. So let's not even go there.


Secondly, I work with all kinds of people in arranged marriages and the system seems to work much better than the one we have here, so I'm gonna try to emulate what I see works best. You do you with yours and we'll see how that bullshyt works out for you, I guess

What kind of progress argues for arranged marriages?

 

[UpNext]

Post a link to those threads. Because the threads I see you making are always blaming immigrants instead of confronting what's really driving poverty.


This is a lie. You're an actual right-winger. You're the one with the history of doing this. Just because you changed your names from TK Smart, to Chillin, to what you have now, and hid your profile don't mean people forgot that, especially your defense of Candace Owens' Blexit and Brandon Straka's "walk away" as good faith attempts to get Black people to vote. You also have a history of downplaying voter suppression, and argueing in favor of voter ID laws.

You never explained why your account was dormant for years, either.

https://www.thecoli.com/threads/why-is-it-controversial-to-have-an-id-to-vote.917297/

Why would someone claiming to support progressive policies be arguing in favor of Voter ID laws, knowing how they're weaponized to disenfranchise Black voters? Why would someone Black be making that argument?




Why would someone supportive of progressives policies downplay voter suppression like this? Why would someone claiming to be Black do this, knowing this country's history? And how they scheme?

Spoiler: Link to the thread plus info that proved Voter ID laws are a solution searching for a problem and are racist.

https://www.thecoli.com/threads/why-is-it-controversial-to-have-an-id-to-vote.917297/post-45973221

Getting a photo ID so you can vote is easy. Unless you’re poor, black, Latino or elderly.

What Effect Will Shuttering Alabama DMV Offices Have on Black Voters? The state has a strict voter ID law, yet more than 30 offices, many of them across the “Black Belt,” are set to close.

A comprehensive investigation of voter impersonation finds 31 credible incidents out of one billion ballots cast.

Why Voter ID Laws Aren’t Really about Fraud | FRONTLINE | PBS | Official Site | Documentary Series

Proponents say these laws ensure election integrity, but a FRONTLINE analysis found that ID requirements aren't applied equally to all voters.

www.pbs.org

In a thread asking why no one runs "don't vote" campaigns on white people:





This dude was actually treating two of the biggest MAGA propagandists as good faith actors, ignoring how they targeted Black people with disinformation designed to drive apathy and make them stay home. This wasn't no "vote for Republicans" campaign, it was one where the preferred outcome was just staying home. All of the disinformation they put out was designed to achieve that goal.

Same with Trump and we see what happened there with Project2025.


Why would a supposedly Black person who supports progressive policies take Trump at his word?

Spoiler

What kind of progress argues for arranged marriages?

Right, thinking adults should need a bare minimum requirement of having an ID to vote makes someone right wing now.

These boys retarded as hell and are legit confused why they get tuned out in real life and thecoli is the only place where anyone will entertain their brand of stupidity.

 

[O.T.I.S.]

So who gonna save everyone then OP, you?

 

[Pull Up the Roots]

the answer was in response to someone asking if that’s preferable to black life under maga.

of the two, OBVIOUSLY the benign neglect of the democrats would see us in far better shape than we are now.

that is statistically irrefutable, if you review the data charting how much our community has slid in just one year.

you guys are either agents or ignorant.

It's not complicated. They support Trump because they agree with his anti-immigrant politics.

They just won't say that part out loud, because they still want to be seen as "pro-Black." Owning that position would require admitting they're comfortable with harm coming to Black people as long as someone else is harmed more. And they resolve that tension through cynical "both sides" arguments, which functions as moral cover, not clear-eyed analysis. It's the same grievance politics that Trump peddles.

 

[Ozymandeas]

We have to organize and become politically active again and force any party we vote for to put tanglible policies on the table.

Nikka shut up What tangibles are you getting from a fascist, from open white supremacists? The #BothSides jig is up

 

[Pull Up the Roots]

Right, thinking adults should need a bare minimum requirement of having an ID to vote makes someone right wing now.

These boys retarded as hell and are legit confused why they get tuned out in real life and thecoli is the only place where anyone will entertain their brand of stupidity.

Nobody is arguing that IDs are inherently evil or that adults shouldn't have identification. That's a strawman. The argument is about how voter ID laws are designed, implemented, and enforced in the real world, not in the alternate reality your thoughts occupy.

Calling people "retarded" doesn't make your "argument" stronger, it just signals that you CAN'T engage with evidence.

The irony is that this issue has been litigated repeatedly, studied extensively, and even admitted to by GOP operatives. The people getting "tuned out" are usually the ones ignoring data in favor of vibes.

Getting a photo ID so you can vote is easy. Unless you’re poor, black, Latino or elderly.

What Effect Will Shuttering Alabama DMV Offices Have on Black Voters? The state has a strict voter ID law, yet more than 30 offices, many of them across the “Black Belt,” are set to close.

A comprehensive investigation of voter impersonation finds 31 credible incidents out of one billion ballots cast.

Why Voter ID Laws Aren’t Really about Fraud | FRONTLINE | PBS | Official Site | Documentary Series

Proponents say these laws ensure election integrity, but a FRONTLINE analysis found that ID requirements aren't applied equally to all voters.

www.pbs.org

Now ignore this too like the coward you are.

 

[Ozymandeas]

i can tell that you, like the majority of this forum’s “both sides are the same” crowd, aren’t well read or educated.

i feel like this is a waste of time.

but, to answer your question under the terms you’ve set:

yes, i would much rather take our chances under democratic governance, because, with some measure of constitutional norms still intact, at least there are avenues for reformative policy that addresses the various issues affecting our community.

no such opportunity will exist under a system operating according to the maga world view.

at that dumbass saying he’d rather live under fascism then under the Democrats because change is too incremental and slow. Our education system has failed us. Democrats aren’t perfect but the majority of our advancements over the past 50 years is because of them. What have Republicans done for anyone except override the ban on assault rifles, crash economies, get us into wars, fight against reducing healthcare, against fighting climate change, against providing reproductive care, and cutting taxes for the rich. They have literally not been on the right side of anything for decades. All these both sides muthafukkas would be screaming to come back to a blue state or city if we forced them to live under 100% Republican control.

 

[UpNext]

Nobody is arguing that IDs are inherently evil or that adults shouldn't have identification. That's a strawman. The argument is about how voter ID laws are designed, implemented, and enforced in the real world, not in the alternate reality your thoughts occupy.

Calling people "retarded" doesn't make your "argument" stronger, it just signals that you CAN'T engage with evidence.

The irony is that this issue has been litigated repeatedly, studied extensively, and even admitted to by GOP operatives. The people getting "tuned out" are usually the ones ignoring data in favor of vibes.

Getting a photo ID so you can vote is easy. Unless you’re poor, black, Latino or elderly.

What Effect Will Shuttering Alabama DMV Offices Have on Black Voters? The state has a strict voter ID law, yet more than 30 offices, many of them across the “Black Belt,” are set to close.

A comprehensive investigation of voter impersonation finds 31 credible incidents out of one billion ballots cast.

Why Voter ID Laws Aren’t Really about Fraud | FRONTLINE | PBS | Official Site | Documentary Series

Proponents say these laws ensure election integrity, but a FRONTLINE analysis found that ID requirements aren't applied equally to all voters.

www.pbs.org

Now ignore this too like the coward you are.

You can't read.

That's why you started your post with this retarded shyt:

"Nobody is arguing that IDs are inherently evil or that adults shouldn't have identification. That's a strawman."

I'm not calling you retarded to make my argument stronger, I don't care about an argument from 4 years ago, you legit read words that aren't there and then go on nonsensical rants about said words that aren't there.

I don't go back and forth with adults who are on message boards for over 30 years but somehow read like 8 year olds. Do better.