It's time to call out Obama brehs

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This is the problem I have with a lot of these idiots .....If you want to criticise him on the economy, on Syria etc.... then its fair game thats his responsibility

why bother having a Governor, mayor , councilmen If you expect the president to address local issues .....

doesnt make sense.....

There's this perception that the president has King like powers..... He doesn't. I'm not caping for him either.

The problem is that people don't understand how state government, congress and the president function and its design to be that way.....

How much time does the average person spend on learning about government in school? Notice how they pass bills right in front of our faces that we don't even know about. Notice all of the legal jargon used during policy making and discussions on the floor.
 
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his entire 2nd term has been about legacy building for him (cuba, iran, TPP). i hope he comes back down to earth his final few months.

To be fair, those are huge issues that deserved attention. Normal relations with Cuba should have happened decades ago both for moral and economic reasons. Miami shouldnt dictate foreign policy and neither should weirdos stuck in the cold war era still paranoid about commies. Engaging Iran in some kind of dialogue was due considering the need for a check on the Saudis with Iraq no longer being a player in Middle East affairs. Not to mention Israel. With friends like Israel and Saudi Arabia, who needs..............I cant speak on the TPP as I'm still wrapping my head around it, but I can say one thing. The nation's economics including trade is an essential part of the President's job description. That said, saying he needs to come back down the earth, or that he's only concerned with legacy building is unfair. He's doing his job.

Like others mentioned, dont be so quick to forget he has spoken on race throughout his terms. The beer summit and "if I had a son" are etched in the minds of white racists because of him. Is he perfect? No. Could he maybe have done more? Maybe, I think so anyway. Still, his job description includes a whole lot more than issues that really should be handled on a local level.
 

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What things has he stated on race in regards to matters like this and the water crisis in Flint?


So you're saying that Obama should fly to Dallas and set up a post-op and be on the ground in Dallas, shake hands with the officers, and not fly to Baton Rouge or Minnesota to do the same and shake hands with the ppl that put him office or at least supported him? Why can't he do both

Hell even President Bush came to New Orleans to see about us (well not us) but the situation when Katrina hit.

Local elections are important and folks have called out their local leaders, There are clips of folks calling out the mayor and others in Baton Rouge, but to say Obama is not support to be criticized when he is going to Dallas to go and see about the slain their, but these 2 brothers were slain and their families and the communities are in a wreck and he's not or shouldn't be concern with them? This is what you're saying?

Folks talk about voting locally, vote this or that but don't even understand this whole system. Most of these ppl in these black communities that are protesting out here now are FELONS and can't vote, and why are they FELONS, because the laws have been changed to incriminate black ppl, black folks are charged/tagged with any and everything than whites, the same ppl that's out there protesting are more likely Felons.
That's why saying vote for you local politicians isn't that easy neither. Most ppl don't even know, there are more Felons out here today that haven't even served jail time, all you need is a conviction/plea deal and to be given parole or probation and you're labeled as a Felon.

But back to your point I wanted to address, That's what a leader or President do, you are the President for Everybody I thought?

Obama could easily order the national guard to all these crime scenes, hell I'd have the national guard posted on every corner in the hood and in front of all the police stations. I'd have federal agents all up in that azz reviewing every last cop shooting in the last 20 years. I'd have federal prosecutors on the azz of every cop that ever made a statement backing another cop to catch them in their lies. I'd have the AG open cases on every cop we could prove intentional kill a citizen, and i'd bury them under the prison to send a STRONG message to all cops this is not to be allowed. But nikkaz like @Nemesis would rather pontificate on justifications for inaction by the #1 official in the country. F*ck outta here :camby:
 

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Because at the ground level it's easier to maintain control then at the presidential level, which is exactly cops in Texas were able to arbitrarily ticket black drivers for decades before something was mentioned about it. CACs know that the dirt has to be kept hidden, and it's tough to hide that much dirt at the federal level, word to Nixon. So as long as the President, Supreme Court and Congress let the local sh*t go, nothing ever really changes. So until there comes a president who cares what's going on at the local level, there will still be cops killing unarmed citizens without repercussion.



my friend, you really need to take a class in politics..... let me put this way

Its illegal for the police to enter my house without a warrant....

police still do it (ive had it done personally)

The courts, congress have already done their job which is to make it illegal...they have done their job

so what do you now expect them to do ?... this is why you have a DA , a local police chief and a mayor etc.. to make sure that these are enforced locally..


That is how the system works my friend
 
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To be fair, those are huge issues that deserved attention. Normal relations with Cuba should have happened decades ago both for moral and economic reasons. Miami shouldnt dictate foreign policy and neither should weirdos stuck in the cold war era still paranoid about commies. Engaging Iran in some kind of dialogue was due considering the need for a check on the Saudis with Iraq no longer being a player in Middle East affairs. Not to mention Israel. With friends like Israel and Saudi Arabia, who needs..............I cant speak on the TPP as I'm still wrapping my head around it, but I can say one thing. The nation's economics including trade is an essential part of the President's job description. That said, saying he needs to come back down the earth, or that he's only concerned with legacy building is unfair. He's doing his job.

Like others mentioned, dont be so quick to forget he has spoken on race throughout his terms. The beer summit and "if I had a son" are etched in the minds of white racists because of him. Is he perfect? No. Could he maybe have done more? Maybe, I think so anyway. Still, his job description includes a whole lot more than issues that really should be handled on a local level.



Exactly .... this is the point these people dont seem to understand.... Im not saying dont criticise him, but what OP is calling him out for is as daft as criticising Bill de Blasio for Americas foreign policy.....
 

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Obama could easily order the national guard to all these crime scenes, hell I'd have the national guard posted on every corner in the hood and in front of all the police stations. I'd have federal agents all up in that azz reviewing every last cop shooting in the last 20 years. I'd have federal prosecutors on the azz of every cop that ever made a statement backing another cop to catch them in their lies. I'd have the AG open cases on every cop we could prove intentional kill a citizen, and i'd bury them under the prison to send a STRONG message to all cops this is not to be allowed. But nikkaz like @Nemesis would rather pontificate on justifications for inaction by the #1 official in the country. F*ck outta here :camby:



so basically you would turn the country to a police state? what exactly is the national guard going to do? except cause a state of tension

If ANY president took those actions he would lose the confidence of the police immediately..... The police would down tools immediately ...

within 24 hours America would be burning

I swear some of you talk without thinking
 

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Obama could easily order the national guard to all these crime scenes, hell I'd have the national guard posted on every corner in the hood and in front of all the police stations. I'd have federal agents all up in that azz reviewing every last cop shooting in the last 20 years. I'd have federal prosecutors on the azz of every cop that ever made a statement backing another cop to catch them in their lies. I'd have the AG open cases on every cop we could prove intentional kill a citizen, and i'd bury them under the prison to send a STRONG message to all cops this is not to be allowed. But nikkaz like @Nemesis would rather pontificate on justifications for inaction by the #1 official in the country. F*ck outta here :camby:

Some ppl have their views on what he should and shouldn't speak on, that's them, and just like you have your view on what he should do, that's your view, neither view is Correct or Wrong.
If you feel he should do more, cool and I, myself feel he should do more and others in this thread feel he shouldn't and already spoke his peace etc. that's how they feel, Kool.
 

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So Cuba being able to trade with the USA would have more ramifications for his legacy than police reform in the US, the country in which he was elected? :mindblown:
the difference is cuba he did on his own while any type of national police reform would require congress to get involved and other parties. i'm not sure if he has the will for that fight. i agree with you tho he should be doing more but he's a politician at the core. he has to worry about how him going all in for us would affect hillary and other dems up for election.
 

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The big shame of it is a lot of these places where shootings have occurred have a large if not majority black population...

It boggles my mind that blacks in Ferguson been complaining about the racist local police for years but apparently blacks are in the majority down there ....

did those people not vote locally .... I just dont understand.... when these racist fukks know their jobs are on the line at elections they learn how to behave and toe the line...

I just dont get it
 
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Obama is a company man. He isnt going to do anything to damage his "brand" which is the democratic party. They are fighting for votes across the south for white men. He is a politician, he will put politics before his half black side every time.



One thing many of you dont seem to realise... ANYONE who enters politics in order to be successful becomes a company man...

And even If they give the impression that they are their own guy, trust me they are a company man

That is the nature of a political democracy .... you have to rule by consent .... even dictators rule by consent


NO ONE, and I mean NO ONE is their own man
 

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On every leading economic issue, in the leading economic issues Black Americans have lost ground in every one of those leading categories. So in the last ten years it hasn’t been good for black folk. This is the president’s most loyal constituency that didn’t gain any ground in that period.

In 2009, when Obama took office, the black poverty rate was 25.8 percent. As of 2014, according to Pew Research Center, the black poverty rate was 27.2 percent.What about income? CNNMoney says, “Minority households’ median income fell 9 percent between 2010 and 2013, compared to a drop of only 1 percent for whites.” The Financial Times wrote last October: “Since 2009, median non-white household income has dropped by almost a 10th to $33,000 a year, according to the U.S. Federal Reserve’s survey of consumer finances. As a whole, median incomes fell by 5 percent. But by the more telling measure of net wealth — assets minus liabilities — the numbers offer a more troubling story.”
What about net worth and the black-white “wealth gap”? The Financial Times said: “The median non-white family today has a net worth of just $18,100 — almost a fifth lower than it was when Mr. Obama took office. White median wealth, on the other hand, has inched up by 1 percent to $142,000. In 2009, white households were seven times richer than their black counterparts. That gap is now eightfold. Both in relative and absolute terms, blacks are doing worse under Mr. Obama.” Remember, these numbers apply to all “non-whites.” For blacks, it’s worse.
When looking only at “black net worth” — which is lower compared to non-whites as a whole — white households are actually 13 times wealthier than black households. From 2010 to 2013, according to the Federal Reserve, white household median wealth increased a modest 2.4 percent, while Hispanic families’ wealth declined 14 percent, to $13,700. But blacks’ net worth fell from $16,600 to $11,000. This is an astonishing three-year drop of 34 percent. Investors Business Daily put it this way, “That’s a steeper decline than occurred from 2007 to 2010, when blacks’ net worth fell 13.5 percent.” The black/white “wealth-gap” has reached a 25-year high.
What about unemployment? In 2009, black unemployment was 12.7 percent, and by 2014, it had fallen to 10.1 percent. This sounds like good news until one examines the black labor force participation rate — the percentage of blacks working or seeking work. It’s the lowest since these numbers have been recorded.
 

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so basically you would turn the country to a police state? what exactly is the national guard going to do? except cause a state of tension

If ANY president took those actions he would lose the confidence of the police immediately..... The police would down tools immediately ...

within 24 hours America would be burning

I swear some of you talk without thinking

As opposed to what is happening now? :laff:
 
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