Its time we admit: Rap Game was in better shape when NY was gatekeeping :francis:

[Bugzbunny129]

It is "debatable." you're just a hater.

You already made up your mind that nobody has talent and puts 0 effort into their craft.

I've never seen u in any relative discussions on hip-hop anyway.

Just say you only fukk with oldschool.

Theres nothing wrong with that; its people like you with your attitude.

There ARE good artists who have been grinding putting out incredible music with the discography 2 do it since the "golden days."

A lot of them don't have the same misses as a lot of the rappers who are held in high esteem from the "golden days."

And they have a fraction of the backing.

The problem with people like you is you're close minded and blinded by nostalgia.

Also back then you had a MACHINE telling you what was dope.

Without that a lot of people are lost like yourself.

Bro again your missing the point. And if you cant discuss things like a grown man dont reply and call people haters and ask for their opinion. What part of “they dont have LOWER levels of creativity” did you miss. Or where did i say their arent ANY dope rappers. There 100% are.

But your pretending i dont gotta sift through 10x more shyt to get to the GOLD and thats a fact. Not hate. No gatekeeping means law of averages takes over…

You think im Dismissing shyt off rip

Im not. I like songs i hear today. I dont love them tho.

It is NOT debabtable that rap is just to get you in the door. NOONE actially cares about the music. How many rappers became actors because of this. Method man talks about it often. Whens the LAST TIME this place discussed an album for real? Where we all buzzed for it like Kendricks diss to drake?

Dont happen no more because the fact is noone cares.

My GOAT hasnt made an album in 10 years. Yet has TEN ALBUMS released. Wanna play who it is? He has his man record all his side shyts. ALLLLLLL of it. He ainy the only one. Did he just lose it man? Did all the 90s guys just lose it all? But these guys got it? Think logically about what your saying. The game has changed and you are pretending its the same game… thats your problem. The internet has lowered the standards on ALL art. There is no mystery no more. You get too much today.


If thriller was 24 songs instead of 9 perfect ones it wouldnt be thriller. Wu tang dropped 5 classics in 2 years, your saying these tapes are that quality? Foh man. They aint. Thats a fact.

No a machine put out shyt, we decided whats dope by paying. Now we dont even pay. Now we listen for 10 seconds and move on. Now nothing puts it out, and it all breezes right past and we gotta climb outta a shyt box eith that one golden record in our hand thats free.

If the music is so good than why the coli is more like lipstick alley than review site. Where all these music discussions. Half this places posts are single sentence. Go look up sohh and see how we discussed albums then versus now.

Your whole point dont even make sense because i myself and others make music too. I run into talented artists everyday. They are always tje ones GHOSTWRITING and PRODUCING tor the guys YALL like.

Talent means nothung today in this game. Its about everything BUT the dope song. Thats the point man. The talented ones arent the ones you are seeing anymore. You are seeing the ones who sell their privacy for cheap pops. Yet you can put makeup on a pig all you want. It’s still a pig.

You think the game is in the shape its in because things are going well? Lmao. The post covid times is over. Famous rappers cant even sell out a tour… BECAUSE THEIR MUSIC ISNT CATCHING…BECAUSE ITS NOT ABOUT THE MUSIC ANYMORE. Guys get signed because they went viral on IG from skits and then the label wonders why their joints dont pop at all. Wu hit 5 continents and circled the globe TWICE with nas 2 years ago for a year + straight. Yet everyone popping today sides drake cant even tour… why does the older generation care more about music than the younger if its so good rn?

Rap slides down the charts everyday yet you say classics dropping every week. Ok…I asked you to post 10 albums with zero skips and instead you wanna call me a hater for stating obvious facts. Still waiting.

A mcdonalds hamburger is worth more than ANY rap song. Aint even cheese on it. A meal cost more than a monthly sub to spotify. Let alone the album. shyt i could get mickey ds for a week instead of their official t shirt. People picking McD everytime.

Music is damn near worthless today. Nobodies who play videogames on youtube got bigger audiences rhan 95% ALL rappers. Tuning in everyday. Even famous ones. Thats why they doing podcasts and streaming instead of rapping. Do you not see the signs that noone gives a fukk anymore? They all working 10x harder to do what exactly. Who are they? Artists? Or BRANDS.

GEEKS with More dedicated fanbases who spend more money on them outperform every rapper playing videogames in their room. Akademiks owns the young pop rap space from his basement lmao.. Be an entertainer and lose ya spot to a nerd online rap brehs. That should be a sign. People rather watch people who look like themselves than some rapper pretending to be someone he aint. Thats THE GAME in 2024. They dont even donit for the same reasons anymore. The culture is dead and is just a buzz word used by industry types.

 

[Bolzmark]

Barrier of entry lowered like a mf after NY fell off. Quality went down as well

SUPER FACTS.

 

[keond]

It was better before the Telecommunications Act allowed Clear Channel to buy most the major radio stations and all them stations played whatever the major labels wanted.

Bingo. And Dirty Bill Clinton signed this one.

Killed local radio. Killed program directors who were the true gate keepers. Killed Remixes too (but thats another thread),

Basically a computer in San Antonio decides what records the entire country has to play.

 

[maxamusa]

Bro again your missing the point. And if you cant discuss things like a grown man dont reply and call people haters and ask for their opinion. What part of “they dont have LOWER levels of creativity” did you miss. Or where did i say their arent ANY dope rappers. There 100% are.

But your pretending i dont gotta sift through 10x more shyt to get to the GOLD and thats a fact. Not hate. No gatekeeping means law of averages takes over…

You think im Dismissing shyt off rip

Im not. I like songs i hear today. I dont love them tho.

It is NOT debabtable that rap is just to get you in the door. NOONE actially cares about the music. How many rappers became actors because of this. Method man talks about it often. Whens the LAST TIME this place discussed an album for real? Where we all buzzed for it like Kendricks diss to drake?

Dont happen no more because the fact is noone cares.

My GOAT hasnt made an album in 10 years. Yet has TEN ALBUMS released. Wanna play who it is? He has his man record all his side shyts. ALLLLLLL of it. He ainy the only one. Did he just lose it man? Did all the 90s guys just lose it all? But these guys got it? Think logically about what your saying. The game has changed and you are pretending its the same game… thats your problem. The internet has lowered the standards on ALL art. There is no mystery no more. You get too much today.


If thriller was 24 songs instead of 9 perfect ones it wouldnt be thriller. Wu tang dropped 5 classics in 2 years, your saying these tapes are that quality? Foh man. They aint. Thats a fact.

No a machine put out shyt, we decided whats dope by paying. Now we dont even pay. Now we listen for 10 seconds and move on. Now nothing puts it out, and it all breezes right past and we gotta climb outta a shyt box eith that one golden record in our hand thats free.

If the music is so good than why the coli is more like lipstick alley than review site. Where all these music discussions. Half this places posts are single sentence. Go look up sohh and see how we discussed albums then versus now.

Your whole point dont even make sense because i myself and others make music too. I run into talented artists everyday. They are always tje ones GHOSTWRITING and PRODUCING tor the guys YALL like.

Talent means nothung today in this game. Its about everything BUT the dope song. Thats the point man. The talented ones arent the ones you are seeing anymore. You are seeing the ones who sell their privacy for cheap pops. Yet you can put makeup on a pig all you want. It’s still a pig.

You think the game is in the shape its in because things are going well? Lmao. The post covid times is over. Famous rappers cant even sell out a tour… BECAUSE THEIR MUSIC ISNT CATCHING…BECAUSE ITS NOT ABOUT THE MUSIC ANYMORE. Guys get signed because they went viral on IG from skits and then the label wonders why their joints dont pop at all. Wu hit 5 continents and circled the globe TWICE with nas 2 years ago for a year + straight. Yet everyone popping today sides drake cant even tour… why does the older generation care more about music than the younger if its so good rn?

Rap slides down the charts everyday yet you say classics dropping every week. Ok…I asked you to post 10 albums with zero skips and instead you wanna call me a hater for stating obvious facts. Still waiting.

A mcdonalds hamburger is worth more than ANY rap song. Aint even cheese on it. A meal cost more than a monthly sub to spotify. Let alone the album. shyt i could get mickey ds for a week instead of their official t shirt. People picking McD everytime.

Music is damn near worthless today. Nobodies who play videogames on youtube got bigger audiences rhan 95% ALL rappers. Tuning in everyday. Even famous ones. Thats why they doing podcasts and streaming instead of rapping. Do you not see the signs that noone gives a fukk anymore? They all working 10x harder to do what exactly. Who are they? Artists? Or BRANDS.

GEEKS with More dedicated fanbases who spend more money on them outperform every rapper playing videogames in their room. Akademiks owns the young pop rap space from his basement lmao.. Be an entertainer and lose ya spot to a nerd online rap brehs. That should be a sign. People rather watch people who look like themselves than some rapper pretending to be someone he aint. Thats THE GAME in 2024. They dont even donit for the same reasons anymore. The culture is dead and is just a buzz word used by industry types.

You could have just said "hip-hop is dead"

not sure if this is senile or drug induced babble or what.

I'll help you out tho old man since u did mention somewhere for the put on. And I'll keep it diverse.

Currency, Mozzy, and Payroll Giovanni are 3 artists with 10x the amount of work any of your 90s favorites put out. And they actually craft albums with really good visuals. Tons of mixtapes 2.


All completely original with THEIR OWN SOUND never compromised.

Check em out.

There runs are are well over a decade 2.


BTW wu-tang had 2 incredible group albums, and one of them had black shampoo on it. just saying.


Funny part is you lowkey said u in the industry and make music; but somehow still feel that type of way?. u kinda just ethered yourself if thats the case.

Matter a fact I put you onto 3 legends from the new.

Drop your shyt.

You being real critical lets see your level of talent.

Go ahead Sensi show us grasshoppers how its done.

 

[Raw Lyrics]

Rap is better when the west is hot.

As a NYer, I kinda have to agree with you. Some of my favorite east coast rap music came as a result of the East being forced to step their game up, in response to the fire music the West was putting out.

 

[kevm3]

What's stopping the East or anywhere else from making all of these amazing hits? With the internet, artists from anywhere can release hits and get exposure

 

[spliz]

What's stopping the East or anywhere else from making all of these amazing hits? With the internet, artists from anywhere can release hits and get exposure

It's over. New York is one city. The South is a whole region. Social Media changed everything as well.