It's to a point where Alvarez and them go out their way to hate on WWE

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Youre talking about what they could be. Im talking about what they are...

Of the 3 the only one that I blame for their situation is Ziggler. He's been around long enough to know he needs to evolve his character, and a heel turn just aint gonna cut it.

Kalisto and Crews should have been part of the Cruiserweight division. Kalisto should NEVER be allowed to talk. Crews is going to need a heel run in order to get over. Nobody is going to be able to get over in this era by debuting as a face.
 
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Of the 3 the only one that I blame for their situation is Ziggler. He's been around long enough to know he needs to evolve his character, and a heel turn just aint gonna cut it.

Kalisto and Crews should have been part of the Cruiserweight division. Kalisto should NEVER be allowed to talk. Crews is going to need a heel run in order to get over. Nobody is going to be able to get over in this era by debuting as a face.
The fact that BARON CORBIN played an entire football career, learned how to wrestle, went thru nxt, came to smackdown, and eclipsed him completely since the time ziggler was last legit is pretty fukking embarassing.
 

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I've actually noticed this about Bryan and Vinnie. Bryan Alvarez is at the point that he's set in his way of he doesn't like anything new or crazy and Vinnie just hates everything of the current era. The fact that they just refuse to talk about anything TNA, refuse to talk about Smackdown and bytch about Raw and Lucha Underground episodes made me stop listening to them regularly and I only listen on rare occasions.



Funny thing is that Bryan and Vinnie are always :noah::ohlawd:when they review old NWA, AWA and any old school wrestling shows to the point where they act like its a major chore to talk about anything wrestling that current... although they do praise New Japan.

They're slaves to nostalgia.

I LOVE the Attitude era, but I'm not going to pretend as if everything from that Era was great and also act like we haven't gotten some dope shyt the past 10 years. Bryan and Vinnie are why so many wrestling fans have become obnoxious to the point where they're ruining shows just because they don't get EXACTLY what they want.
 

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They're appealing to :iwcsmark:

Its not only like that in wrestling forums I've learned from my internetting that when you have a forum or a sub forum dedicated to a certain topic that moat of the time its just people bytching how bad it is and how they dont like it :mindblown:

I bytch and complain my fair share about things too but Ill just stop watching for a while and come back invested again
 

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I've often said that Meltzer taste on current wrestling is fukking garbage, but at least he enjoys wrestling and hypes anything he thinks it's worth a damn.

Guys like Alvarez are a waste of oxygen. I have no clue why anyone would give his opinions on the product any weight. Specially in 2017. If the problem is with the people that continue to hold his takes on wrestling as important, then my answer is that being preocupied about the lowest common denominator in the IWC is not worth your time :manny:
 

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Idk what people coukd really bytch about. If we go down one by one everuthing was booked just fine.

Becky vs Mickie gives Becky a much needed win. It being a roll up makes for another match in the future.

The handicap match was to solidify Ziggler as a heel. They now have to capitalize on Apollo's injury angle but nothing terrible here.

Tag Turmoil was booked well enough. Usos and American Alpha looked strong and theyre the teams that matter.

Nikki and Nattie was a good non finish and builds to future rumored angles.

Orton and Harper was good in making Harper a legit threat for Wyatt later on. Commentary really put him over too.

Naomi fukking won. If you have an issue with that then go fukk yourself.

Bray looked like a certified beast last night (finally). We really had no reason for Cena's title reign but that is nit picking.

I really enjoyed this show and its definitely my favorite solo show ppv since Backlash
 

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didn't watch the show but what the hell are they doing? have styles lose the belt to cena in a "history making win" and don't make it a big deal, only to have him lose it less than a month later to bray wyatt :what: who thinks wyatt vs orton should be the "main event" at wrestlemania?
out of all the options they had on smackdown, thats the one they choose? :mjlol:
 

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I never listen to WOR if Dave isn't on.

I didn't like the Chamber match though. New rules were trash. Can only pin inside the ring? :dahell: how many times did someone hit a finisher, and the dude that took it immediately rolls out of the ring? shyt was mad corny

New rules? That's been the rule since the first one. No one has ever tried to pin someone outside. It always had to be in the ring. :wtf:
 

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Meltzer is not really in this group, but I mean alverez and Semperveve, the LAW guys, any of the whatculture dorks, it's like they hate everything and if a match isn't absolutely flawless it sucks ass. If the winner THEY WANT to win doesn't win clean it sucks ass. If they don't get a payoff when they want (if it's too early or too late) it's -***** .

How could you watch the show last night and A. Not understand the logic behind every result and direction they're going, B. Complain about simple errors that don't take away from enjoyment, C. Overcomplain about the crowd and you deserve chants to Naomi (suddenly you don't like those huh) and D. Just say the show sucked. They literally used everyone on the entire roster in a way that didn't seem forced and went to the next PPV and sdlive


Listen to this shyt if you haven't and can stand the ads



The whole time I'm like did I watch the same show? I was stone cold sober...




Eh I'd say the Whatculture guys aren't that negative. The rest definitely feel like they sometimes have a tendency to overanalyse to the point of negativty but weirdly enough Alvarez likes certain things if they are so bad on some MSTK300 shyt.

But yeah they're not the optimists that Cheap Heat and Masked Man are or Wrestling with Wregret. Not sure the Cageside seat guys are any better but they seem to filibuster themselves into positivity and same with Solomonster

Like I'm glad Naomi won but I can see the case for why she needed a proper build to the title and because they didnt do that it feels random which if anything is unfair to Naomi.Edit: sorry I realised now what you meant is them going on about "The You deserve it" chant is overused.Which I sorta get but its a weird complaint its not on the level of "What" or "CM Punk"


Still, those guys beat Bruce Blitz and Don Tony and Kevin Castle who seems detached (Well Kev at least out of DT and KC)
 

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Wrestling fans are the most annoying people with opinions.

This is how it goes

- aj shouldn't lose on no b show ppv. He should be in a big time ppv against a worthy opponent.

- why did cena beat aj at the rumble? Cena tying flair isn't even correct flair has more titles.

- wait cena lost two weeks later? That's disrespect to flair. If he was going to tie the record he should have held it longer.

- bray needs to be pushed man he's a great talent.

- why is bray being pushed outta nowhere this makes no sense.

- give bray the title.

- OK bray won now can ziggler dude has worked hard.


-man this is predictable

-why would they do that swerve?!

- I bet aj styles wishes he was in new Japan.


Wrestling fans are trash.
 
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