It's to a point where Alvarez and them go out their way to hate on WWE

[Ed MOTHERFUCKING G]

didn't watch the show but what the hell are they doing? have styles lose the belt to cena in a "history making win" and don't make it a big deal, only to have him lose it less than a month later to bray wyatt who thinks wyatt vs orton should be the "main event" at wrestlemania?
out of all the options they had on smackdown, thats the one they choose?

Cena beat AJ because he is the good guy and there needed to be an end to their feud....That's pretty simple.

They married that with the belt transition so Wyatt can get the belt to give Orton and him a reason for there to be a wedge in their Union for their mania match, and add even more credibility to Wyatt cause he pinned AJ AND CENA in the same night, but not killing them because it's a chamber match.

Wyatt vs Orton could be a very good match, there's no reason it isn't main event worthy other than you (in this conversation you being whomever reads this) just wants other matches....Wanting other matches doesn't make this match a bad decision in and of itself.

 

[⚡⚡⚡]

or the 205 guys are being held down

I actually do agree with this though. The performances from the CWC tournament to 205 Live/Raw had floundered dramatically.

 

[Buggsy Mogues]

New rules? That's been the rule since the first one. No one has ever tried to pin someone outside. It always had to be in the ring.

Nah b... you used to be able to pin/submit anywhere in the Chamber. I don't remember when that changed, maybe it wasn't this year, but it's definitely a new rule.

 

[Ed MOTHERFUCKING G]

I actually do agree with this though. The performances from the CWC tournament to 205 Live/Raw had floundered dramatically.

They get about 40 minutes every raw...thats not held down...mismanaged perhaps but people need to manage eir expectations...cruiserweights never got massive pops in wcw...only applause for their finish and for highspots....just like now

 

[Da King]

PPV was trash, stop blindly caping for a company you have no financial stake in

 

[⚡⚡⚡]

They get about 40 minutes every raw...thats not held down...mismanaged perhaps but people need to manage eir expectations...cruiserweights never got massive pops in wcw...only applause for their finish and for highspots....just like now

Mismanaged is an understatement. I do like how they are doing with heel Neville, but the matches are subpar compared to the CWC performances. Especially we all know (due to a Raw script being leaked) that Jamie Noble produces/manages the cruiserweight matches now. So yeah, they are getting a lot of time, but it seems like more of a waste of time of having the cruiserweights wrestle the very similar WWE style just like the non-cruiserweights. Like you can't even tell a difference between a match of Sami Zayn vs Rollins to a match of Rich Swann vs Neville. Maybe they should let them do more stuff freely in the ring, it wouldn't hurt at all. And the WCW cruiserweights was actually my favorite part of WCW, was just because the in ring style was a lot more different and unique to differentiate from the non-cruiserweights which WWE seems to have a problem with doing right now.

 

[Buggsy Mogues]

Mismanaged is an understatement. I do like how they are doing with heel Neville, but the matches are subpar compared to the CWC performances. Especially we all know (due to a Raw script being leaked) that Jamie Noble produces/manages the cruiserweight matches now. So yeah, they are getting a lot of time, but it seems like more of a waste of time of having the cruiserweights wrestle the very similar WWE style just like the non-cruiserweights. Like you can't even tell a difference between a match of Sami Zayn vs Rollins to a match of Rich Swann vs Neville. Maybe they should let them do more stuff freely in the ring, it wouldn't hurt at all. And the WCW cruiserweights was actually my favorite part of WCW, was just because the in ring style was a lot more different and unique to differentiate from the non-cruiserweights which WWE seems to have a problem with doing right now.

Ya, that's the problem, Meltz has said Vince has told them to tone down a lot of the high spots so that's why it's way more boring than the CWC

 

[Berniewood Hogan]

SMARKS SHEETING THEMSELVES INTO A SCOOP, BROTHER!

 

[Da King]

SMARKS SHEETING THEMSELVES INTO A SCOOP, BROTHER!

 

[R=G]

the show was terrible IMO.

Outside of the Chamber match itself, which ws awsome....and the Naomi/Bliss match. The rest of the matches dragged.

I thought Harper and Blandy got good by the end but he did his Blandy Chinlock garbage though

 

[R=G]

I agree & I'd argue the same with calling Smackdown the "superior" show. I don't think Smackdown is any better than RAW

It is superior..Miz, Alexa, and Naomi would be buried on Raw for one. Talking Smack has been a undoubtable stand out in the wrestling business since inception.

 

[Beautiful Bobby Eatin]

Cena beat AJ because he is the good guy and there needed to be an end to their feud....That's pretty simple.

They married that with the belt transition so Wyatt can get the belt to give Orton and him a reason for there to be a wedge in their Union for their mania match, and add even more credibility to Wyatt cause he pinned AJ AND CENA in the same night, but not killing them because it's a chamber match.

Wyatt vs Orton could be a very good match, there's no reason it isn't main event worthy other than you (in this conversation you being whomever reads this) just wants other matches....Wanting other matches doesn't make this match a bad decision in and of itself.

That feud did end. At summerslam when they had their epic encounter. I know in most cases the face wins the feud but that is not necessary booking anymore. Faces had to win back in the day because everyone paid to see the heel lose. Im willing to bet more people came to see the 4 minutes of Goldberg than see Cena beat Styles. It really didnt have to happen.




BUT......
















Im glad it did because Bray FINALLY pinned Cena. Pinning Styles right after clean does wonders for his momentum. So now Bray looks like the threat he was always meant to look like. And im also confident they already have a big angle planned for Bray to go over Orton at Wrestlemania. So like I said no complaints with booking on the blue side. Raw is a fukking mess though.

 

[Alexander The Great]

Cena beat AJ because he is the good guy and there needed to be an end to their feud....That's pretty simple.

They married that with the belt transition so Wyatt can get the belt to give Orton and him a reason for there to be a wedge in their Union for their mania match, and add even more credibility to Wyatt cause he pinned AJ AND CENA in the same night, but not killing them because it's a chamber match.

Wyatt vs Orton could be a very good match, there's no reason it isn't main event worthy other than you (in this conversation you being whomever reads this) just wants other matches....Wanting other matches doesn't make this match a bad decision in and of itself.

these excuses for shytty booking. you spend damn near a full year building up AJ styles as the guy that John Cena can't beat and then you have him beat him and a now meaningless match at the royal rumble. they could have built up the wrestlemania main event as AJ Styles vs John Cena the guy that Cena can't beat vs Cena making history by winning his 16th. Styles vs Cena would be way better than Orton vs Wyatt. and they could have still done the wyatt vs orton match on the undercard.

 

[Ed MOTHERFUCKING G]

these excuses for shytty booking. you spend damn near a full year building up AJ styles as the guy that John Cena can't beat and then you have him beat him and a now meaningless match at the royal rumble. they could have built up the wrestlemania main event as AJ Styles vs John Cena the guy that Cena can't beat vs Cena making history by winning his 16th. Styles vs Cena would be way better than Orton vs Wyatt. and they could have still done the wyatt vs orton match on the undercard.

"I got what I wanted but not when I want so I don't like it"

 

[Alexander The Great]

"I got what I wanted but not when I want so I don't like it"

ed use common sense man. its not about me "wanting" anything. I don't have a horse in this race. I'm using sense. imagine the main even of the royal rumble 2001 being the rock vs stone cold for the strap and then the main event of wrestlemania 17 being chris benoit vs the undertaker for the strap