I've decided to give back a little. I'll answer questions on evolution for those who have any.

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I'm going to challenge you on that.

You actually don't KNOW that to be true.

Intuitively, you can't prove that.
Well, well, well...interesting comment. The burden of proof is on you, friend. And as you're surely aware, there are many studies/theories making very strong cases for the fact that time does not exist.
 

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1) You didn't answer my question. Homosexuality, which also exists in animals, runs contrary to the fundamental component of evolution....reproduction

Thats not a "fundamental component"

your perspective is flawed on the semantics.

that animals engage in same-sex relations doesn't mean they're prevented from having kids.

Their genetials don't stop working.

2) You didn't answer my question. If time doesn't ultimately exists, then how do things that require change, like evolution, exist? (cleverdodging off that by the way :cheers:)
are you fukking stupid?

Evolution operates based on genetic variation between generations of species as selected by environment and possibly epigenetic effects.

3) You are using semantics when they are not necessary at all. The gene's only purpose is to reproduce. That has nothing to do with reaching an ultimate goal. It simply means that a gene's only purpose is to reproduce. Read the "Self Gene" breh

False.

Genes exist.

They don't have "purpose"

Genes merely code for mRNA.

Thats it.

Theres nothing about "reproducing" stamped on them.

They don't even WANT to be "expressed"...some are just preferred based on a host of other selective events.
 

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Well, well, well...interesting comment. The burden of proof is on you, friend. And as you're surely aware, there are many studies/theories making very strong cases for the fact that time does not exist.

False.

I'm saying that you don't KNOW something.

You're saying that you KNOW something HAD to be there. If you can't prove it, then its merely that you don't know. Not taht you're wrong. :umad:
 

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Thats not a "fundamental component"

your perspective is flawed on the semantics.

that animals engage in same-sex relations doesn't mean they're prevented from having kids.

Their genetials don't stop working.

are you fukking stupid?

Evolution operates based on genetic variation between generations of species as selected by environment and possibly epigenetic effects.



False.

Genes exist.

They don't have "purpose"

Genes merely code for mRNA.

Thats it.

Theres nothing about "reproducing" stamped on them.

They don't even WANT to be "expressed"...some are just preferred based on a host of other selective events.

1) There are two fundamental components of Darwinian evolution. Survival and reproduction. This is BASIC stuff
2)Semantics again. Maybe I should say it a different way for you. Bags of genes reproduce to keep those genes alive. That is their only purpse
 

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False.

I'm saying that you don't KNOW something.

You're saying that you KNOW something HAD to be there. If you can't prove it, then its merely that you don't know. Not taht you're wrong. :umad:
Something did have to be there, because nothing can't create something. What that something is....who knows. It could just be your thought. But it's still something. This is pretty much the only thing we can actually "prove" in any realm


If you can prove to me that nothing can create something, I will concede
 

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1) There are two fundamental components of Darwinian evolution. Survival and reproduction. This is BASIC stuff
first of all, darwin didn't get everything right.

he didn't know about DNA or genetic mutation for starters. So calling it "darwin evolution" limits you to the late 19th century

That being said:

no. still wrong.

Presently evolution is EXPLAINED via natural selection and mutation.

2)Semantics again. Maybe I should say it a different way for you. Bags of genes reproduce to keep those genes alive. That is their only purpse

Thats not their "only purpose"

genes make mRNA. Their "goal" isn't to reproduce. Their reproduction amounts in such an outcome though.

Stop anthropomorphising chemistry.
 

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Something did have to be there, because nothing can't create something. What that something is....who knows. It could just be your thought. But it's still something. This is pretty much the only thing we can actually "prove" in any realm


If you can prove to me that nothing can create something, I will concede

This statement is not always true.

In as far as you know, it has held up, but you can't make a statement to the absolute as to whether or not this claim is true.
 

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Nikkas are annoying me with this monkey stuff.

We didn't evolve from monkeys. We share a common ancestor.
 

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So I saw the "Questioning Darwin" documentary on HBO and I thought it was gonna be pro-creationism...its not.

Its actually an alright look at the origins of the creationism movement and problems they have with scientific understanding.

That being said, I noticed there were several inherently flawed arguments that creationists had.

These people aren't "dumb" per se...just uninformed.

So I want to take the time to address any flaws you can

Also, i'll update this post to include posters who I think are also qualified to comment on the topic and answer other questions.

I want to maintain some quality in this thread but also eventually educate those who are unfamiliar with the concept.

FIRST THINGS FIRST:

Evolution DOES NOT address the origins of life.

It simply doesn't.

thats another topic that has been approached in theories that include but aren't limited to:

1. Abiogensis: www.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abiogenesis

2. Panspermia: www.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panspermia

I've got advanced degrees and am working :sadcam: on professional degrees in this topic, so I just want to do my part to IMPROVE the dialogue on some topics here.

PLEASE POST YOUR COMMENTS IN A SINGLE POST TO BE ADDRESSED AS THOROUGHLY AS POSSIBLE.

APPROVED POSTERS (to be updated):

@Poitier
@Sensitive Blake Griffin
@Raul
@Mephistopheles
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@Fervid
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Hey bro... Do you think various hominids had conflict or "wars" with eachother? Like different apelike people just getting trounced by a another weirder looking hominid that was slightly bigger and a slightly longer name? I don't know why, but that would make great film... I took a few paleontology classes in college and always felt this would be a dumb question to ask :laugh:
 
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I'm a hardcore Darwinist, but :

2) If time doesn't exist, which it doesn't, then how does evolution, something that requires time, exist?

That's...well. there are no words, really. Time does exist; however, irrespective of one's view of time, what we know is that reproduction and natural selection don't occur in a closed system. Therefore, as long as the members of a species are capable of absorbing energy, grow, then eventually reproduce: thus, spreading their genes (with mistakes in the genetic code passed on), then evolution has a chance of occurring. This phenomenon is independent of any definition or misunderstanding of time.


Nothing can't create something. Something had to always have been here. If something had to always have been here, then there is no beginning. If there is no beginning, there is no time, as time requires a beginning

Yeah, that's nonsense. Time had a beginning. The singularity, however, is beyond time. Not that any of that has anything to do with biology nor the theory of evolution.

Time is only an illusion we "see" because we can only sense in 3 dimensions

Length is also an illusion that organisms from flat land "see" because they can only sense 2 dimensions. Of course, that means you should toss out your ability to measure how long your schlong is. Or some other tripe.

1) You didn't answer my question. Homosexuality, which also exists in animals, runs contrary to the fundamental component of evolution....reproduction

One hypotheis is that, homosexuality rather than being an evolutionary dead end, is simply a measure to ensure that in a large population, there will be members able to help in nurturing of the offspring of others. It improves the prospects of said offsprings growing up to pass on healthy genes.

2) You didn't answer my question. If time doesn't ultimately exist, then how do things that require change, like evolution, exist? (clever dodging off that by the way :cheers:)[/quote]

Second law of thermodynamics.

Well, well, well...interesting comment. The burden of proof is on you, friend. And as you're surely aware, there are many studies/theories making very strong cases for the fact that time does not exist.

May I see those studies/theories, please? And will you be kind enough to explain how those studies/theories prevent natural biological processes.
 

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On topic, how can anyone with common sense believe Humans evolved from some monkeys :aicmon:

So, this thread is about the theory of evolution.
The theory of evolution doesn't state that humans evolved from monkeys.
In fact, the theory of evolution doesn't state that humans evolved from anything.

You're in a thread, right now, where you could relieve yourself of ignorance. But I don't think you're going to.
 
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