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Asicz said:
I don't know why some of yall complainjng about his singing/vocals. Yall act like he has to get Bruno Mars for these hooks.It is not really neccesary for him to have Chris Brown for these type of hooks.
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J. Cole, due to his consistent conflicts with Columbia records left him with a bad taste dealing with the industry machine as a whole. That's why he's been reclusive and only releases music when he feels like. He is totally free to do so, because once he finished his label obligations he put his own label onto the same distribution deal as TDE with Interscope. So he doesn't have to answer to anyone. According to some of his artists, even THEY didn't know what J. Cole was putting out or that he even was putting out an album. You can criticize it for whatever he does musically because there's no label head that he has to answer to, but it is still the fact that he is totally free to do so whenever he and only he feels like it.
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You sound like you work for J. Cole. Your defenses of him on here are crazy. That aside, you're not even correct. J. Cole's albums are still distributed by Roc Nation. The deal they gave him is the deal they gave someone like Rihanna where her albums say Westbury Road/Roc Nation. Dreamville distributes through Interscope exclusively. J. Cole did a renegotiation with Roc Nation so his albums are Dreamville/Roc Nation now but let's not get crazy with the notion that he has no label obligations whatsoever. They let him do what he wants because it has proven to work for him.
 
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I realized why I don't enjoy J. Cole as much as I used to. He doesn't say anything that I haven't already discussed with someone else. So it becomes a matter of do I enjoy the music? And his production isn't strong enough to make me do that. No. ID your mentor and you need to go back for more lessons.
 
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You sound like you work for J. Cole. Your defenses of him on here are crazy. That aside, you're not even correct. J. Cole's albums are still distributed by Roc Nation. The deal they gave him is the deal they gave someone like Rihanna where her albums say Westbury Road/Roc Nation. Dreamville distributes through Interscope exclusively. J. Cole did a renegotiation with Roc Nation so his albums are Dreamville/Roc Nation now but let's not get crazy with the notion that he has no label obligations whatsoever. They let him do what he wants because it has proven to work for him.
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They not distributed by Roc Nation. J. Cole is part of Roc Nation. Roc Nation handles the promotion, the marketing, the tours and so forth. And that is that. Dreamville is it's own imprint with Interscope.

Before you come correcting me, why not do your homework.

Exclusive: J. Cole Talks Partnership With Interscope Records

It’s not every day a rapper gets to celebrate a birthday by announcing his homegrown label has partnered with Interscope Records. For J. Cole, that moment came last night when he brought in his 29th year with the news that his Dreamville imprint would be teaming up with the label that has catapulted the careers of Kendrick Lamar, Eminem and Dr. Dre.

“We provide the artist, the direction, the guidance, the music, the new ideas, and they provide muscle and years of experience of really giving artists the proper push,” J. Cole told FORBES in an exclusive interview explaining the deal following his sold out show in New York last night. “We hope to add to the list of legendary albums that were made over in that building.”

Cole’s Dreamville joins the ranks of Interscope-affiliated outfits that include Dr. Dre’s Aftermath Entertainment (home to four Hip-Hop Cash Kings) and P. Diddy’s Bad Boy Records (the label responsible for up-and-coming rappers Machine Gun Kelly and French Montana).

With Interscope providing distribution and industry heavy-lifting, Dreamville will work on proliferating the guerrilla marketing that's helped J. Cole sell more than 1.3 million records. One example: Cole’s 2013’s Dollar and a Dream tour, where tickets were sold for $1 to venues announced online the day of the show. Set up in 2007, Dreamville’s roster includes new names Bas, Omen and KQuick, some of whom are featured on the latest mixtape given to every guest at the Madison Square Garden Theatre last night. The CD came with a hand-written note that promised, “This is only the beginning.”





Many rappers start labels, but by the sounds of it, this venture is more than a vanity deal. For Grammy-nominated Cole – who produced the majority of his gold-certified 2011 studio debut Cole World: The Sideline Story and his 2013 follow-up Born Sinner – the partnership gives him an opportunity to work on every aspect of his craft.

“As an executive it gives me the opportunity to sign acts and break them, but as a producer it allows me to produce someone’s entire album and put it out – that’s what I really look forward to,” said the Forbes 30 Under 30 honoree from his dressing room backstage.


Cole, who was signed by Jay Z to Roc Nation in 2009, has obviously been taking notes.

“It’s definitely a path that’s been made possible by the Dr. Dres and the Jay Zs – these guys who had amazing artistic ability in terms of rapping and production and song writing, but also had a double-sided executive mind.”

Cole seems to understand that in an age where music is so often leaked, special experiences and surprises are the new deluxe albums. Few atmospheres matched the crowd’s joy at the unannounced arrival of Jay Z and Kendrick Lamar last night, who both made guest appearances to perform hits including “PSA” and “M.A.A.D City,” respectively.

“That’s why we love what Beyoncé did,” says Cole, recalling the pop star’s shock December release of a 17-video album. “Those are the type of things that excite us – this new business model.”

"Dreamville celebrates the sort of grass roots, out-of-the-box approach to connecting artists to their fans that can help move the music industry into the future," said Interscope’s president of urban music, Joie Manda, in a statement.

“He [Cole] was one of the first people to accept me in the music business,” Kendrick Lamar told the audience last night. “This is not a regular rapper friendship; this is my brother.”

Though Cole has yet to make the Hip-Hop Cash Kings list of highest earning rappers, as Jay Z gifted Cole an original Roc Nation gold chain onstage in a fitting rap changing of the guard, one couldn’t help but feel Cole’s time has come.

“This is a result of years of learning and figuring this game out,” said Cole. “It’s not an overnight thing but every time you make it up a level you still appreciate and remember level one. It’s definitely one of the best nights ever.”
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