J Flynn will be better than Rubio " houston911

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Point stands. Half of those came at the end of his career and even then he was never as bad as Rubio.

2 of them came within his first 3 seasons.. while he wasn't 35% he was not much better is that point in his career. Rubio still has the rest of his career to get better
 

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Two key differences. Ason never shot as bad as Rubio, even at his worst and he never struggled around the basket which Rubio does. In fact his ability to finish at the rim is the biggest knock against him going forward.

efg and TS were way better than Rubio though. Kidd was actually a pretty decent 3 shooter for most of his career.


My brehs, what are you all talking about? Jason's first 3 years in Dallas -

TS - .475%
EFG - 42%
FG% - 38%
3pt% - 32%


Here are Rubios -

TS - .477%
EFG - 39%
FG% - 35%
3pt% - 33%


He is for all intents and purposes a clone of early Ason Kidd.
 

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2 of them came within his first 3 seasons.. while he wasn't 35% he was not much better is that point in his career. Rubio still has the rest of his career to get better

My brehs, what are you all talking about? Jason's first 3 years in Dallas -

TS - .475%
EFG - 42%
FG% - 38%
3pt% - 32%


Here are Rubios -

TS - .477%
EFG - 39%
FG% - 35%
3pt% - 33%


He is for all intents and purposes a clone of early Ason Kidd.
:ehh:
 

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The same was said about J. Kidd early in his career as well
My brehs, what are you all talking about? Jason's first 3 years in Dallas -

TS - .475%
EFG - 42%
FG% - 38%
3pt% - 32%


Here are Rubios -

TS - .477%
EFG - 39%
FG% - 35%
3pt% - 33%


He is for all intents and purposes a clone of early Ason Kidd.
yup and Kidd imo wasn't a great player earlier in his career. didn't hit his stride until phx later on. IMO ricky isn't comparable to him, the kid has been playing professional basketball since age 15-16 . his prime is either already started or will be starting relatively soon.
 

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yup and Kidd imo wasn't a great player earlier in his career. didn't hit his stride until phx later on. IMO ricky isn't comparable to him, the kid has been playing professional basketball since age 15-16 . his prime is either already started or will be starting relatively soon.
Saying a guy isn't great early on in their career is different than saying that they suck.

He just turned 23 and you're basically implying that he won't get better from here on out.
 

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yup and Kidd imo wasn't a great player earlier in his career. didn't hit his stride until phx later on. IMO ricky isn't comparable to him, the kid has been playing professional basketball since age 15-16 . his prime is either already started or will be starting relatively soon.

your prime isn't based on how many professional years you play, when the 18 year old national teams play our high school players still dominate players who are already playing "professional" basketball. Rubio still has more years to go before he even comes close to his prime in the NBA
 

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My brehs, what are you all talking about? Jason's first 3 years in Dallas -

TS - .475%
EFG - 42%
FG% - 38%
3pt% - 32%


Here are Rubios -

TS - .477%
EFG - 39%
FG% - 35%
3pt% - 33%


He is for all intents and purposes a clone of early Ason Kidd.
Very similar, yes but let's not pretend those stats tell the whole story.
 

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Someone up that thread pls

i wasn't really a johnny flynn fan, but at the same time i sh*t on pretty much every white player so i might have said it :russ: i dont remember that though. seeing that you started the thread im gonna go ahead an assume you pulled this out of your ass.

i know i said brandon jennings, steph curry and tyreke would be better though.
 

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when the 18 year old national teams play our high school players still dominate players who are already playing "professional" basketball.
Our national players are still more talented than those players you can't combat talent regardless of minutes. rubio has played in over 200+ professional games as well as about 3616 nba minutes.he's had a longer career than your average year 3 player.
 

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Our national players are still more talented than those players you can't combat talent regardless of minutes. rubio has played in over 200+ professional games as well as about 3616 nba minutes.he's had a longer career than your average year 3 player.

So if our players are still more talented than their professional players, that would mean he really hasn't seen any more of a professional level of play than a year 3 player correct? Those 200+ professional games means nothing to his development in the NBA game. All International players play professional ball early in their careers, they still come over to the NBA game raw do they not?
 

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So if our players are still more talented than their professional players, that would mean he really hasn't seen any more of a professional level of play than a year 3 player correct? Those 200+ professional games means nothing to his development in the NBA game. All International players play professional ball early in their careers, they still come over to the NBA game raw do they not?
He played for the spanish ACB league one of the best in the world besides the nba. our 18 and under players don't play those teams. rubio played with grown men throughout all of his career. ugh, yes it does like i said above he played in the spanish league not against brazilian scrubs. international players either A. don't come over or B. come over and rarely ever produce because of limited minutes. rubio has had several opportunities given to him as well as vast international experience since 15. he's probably a top 12 pg which isn't bad considering the talent in the league. the way he was heralded i'm disappointed he's not a top 3
 

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He played for the spanish ACB league one of the best in the world besides the nba. our 18 and under players don't play those teams. rubio played with grown men throughout all of his career. ugh, yes it does like i said above he played in the spanish league not against brazilian scrubs. international players either A. don't come over or B. come over and rarely ever produce because of limited minutes. rubio has had several opportunities given to him as well as vast international experience since 15. he's probably a top 12 pg which isn't bad considering the talent in the league. the way he was heralded i'm disappointed he's not a top 3

Ok since you want to say it like just because he's played in the ACB league makes any difference. Rubio never played more than 22 mpg in the ACB, not to mention the ACB regardless of how good you say it is. My point it that it's not the NBA, and players who come out of our colleges end up playing against those international players(including these spanish league players you're hanging you hat on) and they dominate them, despite them playing "professional" basketball since the age of 15-16. So our competition is still better than their pro leagues.

Do yourself a favor and look up stats from the ACB league and you'll see players who were considered scrubs over here doing well in the ACB. It can be better than any other league, only difference is the NBA is still miles above it in terms of talent.
 
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