Even though the bar is set low, these guys aren't exactly first-tier caliber. Both would barely make it into a real Hall of Fame. Klay was solid, but never truly great. He had a lot of big games, so he earns some respect for that, but his career doesn't scream first ballot Hall of Fame material.
Gilbert Arenas brought up a valid point about evaluating players. If you strip away team success, can a player really stand on their own? Klay is only a 5-time All-Star and a 2-time All-NBA, and he’ll likely end his career with less than 20,000 points, even though he’s known as a scorer and shooter. That’s not first ballot or indicative of all-time greatness.