Jade Cargill Officially Signs With The E

[Straw Hat Luffy]

I'm assuming Tiffany Stratton is absolutely blowing your mind, though?

Not blow my mind. But I’ve seen enough. She has matches with Becky Lynch and Nia Jax under her belt that are respectable. And she had all the momentum in the world coming up to the main roster.

I won’t discredit Tiffany or Jade for losing momentum. They’re on Smackdown where the women’s division is shyt and their storylines for the women in general are usually ass.

You could argue Tiffany at the moment is an average worker who had great matches led by veterans.

And it’s probably why the match was short. If two wrestlers can’t lead a match then why should it be 10+ minutes? It’s wwe fault for pairing the two.

But we all knew Jade couldn’t wrestle coming in. And it’s why Bianca was paired with her.

She just needs more reps. Which is why Roxanne and Raquel said in interview that WWE needs more house shows for reps. You need practice to get better.

Not everyone is like Logan Paul or Kurt Angle who comes as a natural in the ring in their first or second years.

Tsc claims they were day 1 fans of Roman, I can’t dispute that since I wasn’t here for the days a majority of the wrestling fanbase and IWC hated the character and thought he was the weakest link in the Shield. No matter what tsc posters try to say I was there bro. Roman was the dude in the six man tag matches that basically just did all the cool big spots.

Obviously as time went on he became that dude and someone who I personally enjoy over Seth and Dean Ambrose in the ring. How did he get that way? Years of reps.

Back in the day, less than five years of experience in the ring meant still wet behind the ears.

Jade just isn’t good yet but she has all the potential in the world.

 

[Killer Instinct]

Not blow my mind. But I’ve seen enough. She has matches with Becky Lynch and Nia Jax under her belt that are respectable. And she had all the momentum in the world coming up to the main roster.

I won’t discredit Tiffany or Jade for losing momentum. They’re on Smackdown where the women’s division is shyt and their storylines for the women in general are usually ass.

You could argue Tiffany at the moment is an average worker who had great matches led by veterans.

And it’s probably why the match was short. If two wrestlers can’t lead a match then why should it be 10+ minutes? It’s wwe fault for pairing the two.

But we all knew Jade couldn’t wrestle coming in. And it’s why Bianca was paired with her.

She just needs more reps. Which is why Roxanne and Raquel said in interview that WWE needs more house shows for reps. You need practice to get better.

Not everyone is like Logan Paul or Kurt Angle who comes as a natural in the ring in their first or second years.

Tsc claims they were day 1 fans of Roman, I can’t dispute that since I wasn’t here for the days a majority of the wrestling fanbase and IWC hated the character and thought he was the weakest link in the Shield. No matter what tsc posters try to say I was there bro. Roman was the dude in the six man tag matches that basically just did all the cool big spots.

Obviously as time went on he became that dude and someone who I personally enjoy over Seth and Dean Ambrose in the ring. How did he get that way? Years of reps.

Back in the day, less than five years of experience in the ring meant still wet behind the ears.

Jade just isn’t good yet but she has all the potential in the world.

Killed a nikka with kindness. I feel you. That's fair.

 

[Tommy Gibbs]

Do you sign Jade to lose clean in under 7 minutes to Tiffany?

YES!! that's exactly why they signed her. haha. This is about destroying other companies. Take their top talent and bury them. And wrestlers keep falling for it. Awesome Kong came to WWE, spoke for the first time in a promo, got pregnant, came back for a match and I don't remember ever seeing her again. Still to this day I have no idea why they had her speaking on a mic when she was so much more with a manager speaking for her. For the record, Kong is my favorite female wrestler of all time and I loved her in the GLOW series

 

[O.Red]

. You could argue Tiffany at the moment is an average worker who had great matches led by veterans. And it’s probably why the match was short. If two wrestlers can’t lead a match then why should it be 10+ minutes?

This is a great point

To another point you made tho I think time and faith is running out on "Jade just needs more reps" It's becoming a crutch. And sure they got rid of house shows but Jade was there when they had plenty of house shows and it's still the same excuse being made every year

Does Jade have an athletic background? I ask because Logan and Angle weren't "naturals" they had a specific, very specialized athletic background. Olympic style wrestling will prepare you for just about any sport. That's the real reason Angle and Logan picked everything up so quickly. My point about Jade not being smooth lends to a lack of athleticism that you tend to notice off the bat

I think Tiffany Strongface sucks but she at the very least gets from point A to B in a relatively smooth manner. This means a lot. Jade is like a rapper with lyrics but no flow

"She just needs more reps" is losing its luster, especially when she's been taken off of TV for training, done house shows, and has been paired with superior wrestlers for training and knowledge. The whole Jade thing wouldn't be an issue if she wasn't looked at as the next big thing. But she is looked at as the next big thing

 

[TheGreatShowtime]

This is a great point

To another point you made tho I think time and faith is running out on "Jade just needs more reps" It's becoming a crutch. And sure they got rid of house shows but Jade was there when they had plenty of house shows and it's still the same excuse being made every year

Does Jade have an athletic background? I ask because Logan and Angle weren't "naturals" they had a specific, very specialized athletic background. Olympic style wrestling will prepare you for just about any sport. That's the real reason Angle and Logan picked everything up so quickly. My point about Jade not being smooth lends to a lack of athleticism that you tend to notice off the bat

I think Tiffany Strongface sucks but she at the very least gets from point A to B in a relatively smooth manner. This means a lot. Jade is like a rapper with lyrics but no flow

"She just needs more reps" is losing its luster, especially when she's been taken off of TV for training, done house shows, and has been paired with superior wrestlers for training and knowledge. The whole Jade thing wouldn't be an issue if she wasn't looked at as the next big thing. But she is looked at as the next big thing

Jade was a basketball player in college. Although she played at Jacksonville University, she was still a collegiate athlete.

 

[Easy-E]

These two years (!) have flown by.

And prove Laveck cannot make a star from scratch.

Jade was a layup and she laying down for Tiffany fukking Stratton in a 7 min match.

 

[Saysumthinfunnymike]

These two years (!) have flown by.

And prove Laveck cannot make a star from scratch.

Jade was a layup and she laying down for Tiffany fukking Stratton in a 7 min match.

I think I have to pushback on people saying Tiffany is a "star" as well. It's not just how weak she's been on the main roster in terms of mic skills or matches, I don't really see her garnering much reaction anymore either. There was a time when people chanted "Tiffy time!" but I haven't seen a lot of that recently.

 

[Easy-E]

I think I have to pushback on people saying Tiffany is a "star" as well. It's not just how weak she's been on the main roster in terms of mic skills or matches, I don't really see her garnering much reaction anymore either. There was a time when people chanted "Tiffy time!" but I haven't seen a lot of that recently.

People forget Wrestling is a community endeavor.

You're judged by who you can put over.

People LIKE a muh'fukka a bunch, but, when they can't do a good program, it shows that they ain't a star.

The WWE has had Tiffany go over veterans like Nia and had her pin Charlotte Flair at WrestleMania.

What exactly do they have to show for it? I legit think Charlotte told them to put Tiffany over because the backlash was getting to her.

Nia Jax (4x), Bayley, Charlotte Falir, Trish, Jade...can you put Tiffany in the middle of the ring for 5 minutes to entertain a crowd? No. Maybe she sells some t-shirts and the WWE keeps a blonde white woman at the top.

 

[ECA]

Same guy that said Ricky was going to be a star in WWE and everyone else who left aew

Ricky Strokes going through a humiliation ritual right now

 

[VegetasHairline]

Tiffany Stratton is

 

[Saysumthinfunnymike]

Nia Jax (4x), Bayley, Charlotte Falir, Trish, Jade...can you put Tiffany in the middle of the ring for 5 minutes to entertain a crowd? No. Maybe she sells some t-shirts and the WWE keeps a blonde white woman at the top.

Someone (it was probably on here) mentioned the other day that she's been champion for like 8 or 9 months and I was

I watch the shows and I didn't realize it had been that long.

 

[O.Red]

I think I have to pushback on people saying Tiffany is a "star" as well. It's not just how weak she's been on the main roster in terms of mic skills or matches, I don't really see her garnering much reaction anymore either. There was a time when people chanted "Tiffy time!" but I haven't seen a lot of that recently.

That Charlotte segment exposed Strongface a lot and she hasn't really recovered

She's also become a representative of the flaws of the upcoming generation where you have all these average to bad wrestlers who can't cut promos or think on their toes

 

[dh86]

She's definitely more popular than Lyra and gets a bigger reaction. Truthfully, there aren't many women in general that garner big reactions. Only a select few, like a rhea or toni, bianca, Mercedes, Chelsea, or even Jaida. Everyone else gets mid reactions during their entrance

With some fans, anything other than long winded title reigns and immediate title wins, is considered a failure. Tag title run, ppv matches, the big 3, plus a kotr crowning isn't anything to sneeze at. Tiffany is their chosen one, so of course Jade lost.

Most of us have been watching long enough to know that wrestlers are slotted at a certain point. It’s not just about wins and losses either, Naomi lost to Jade twice in a row but her profile got larger and larger and larger.

That's a hell of a problem breh

Ok here's the honest problem with Jade. She's not smooth. She has her moments where she executes but overall everyone can see the wheels turning in her head while she works. It's like watching someone do multiplication tables with their fingers.

I think we can all acknowledge by now that Jade should've spent time in NXT, but WWE was too anxious and speed ran her to the main roster. But even with that she's been on main for two years and is still being carried by most of her opponents in the ring. That's not good. Now this is where some y'all may bring up Goldberg, and Goldberg was bad, but Goldberg looked dominant, which leads into my next point

I think a huge issue is that the expectations and demands of Jade, because of her physical appearance, exceed her abilities Nikkas understandably want Jade to beat down and dominate the women's division, but if she was able to pull off that type of performance we would've seen it by now

The dominance and "big" work nikkas want from Jade is actually currently happening with two other women on the roster. Raquel Rodriguez and Piper Niven. Raquel Rodriguez has hit a new stride ever since Kevin Nash told her "If you're gonna work like me, mean it". She's been running bytches over and making it look good. Have you seen these Piper Niven matches? she looks like she's in there murdering them bytches Watch those two and you'll see exactly what nikkas want Jade to do

This is the type of big work and reactions nikkas want Jade to create



At this point I don't know what's next for Jade. I think she's a victim of the expectations heaped onto her based on her looks. Both the fans and the writers want more from her than she can handle. So you have someone that's gotten the top level hype, but her results scream mid carder

How Jade does interviews and works in the ring has to match her appearance and until there’s synergy she’s gonna have problems. She should study what Naomi actually did as a vet where she slightly altered her appearance and greatly changed her character to where it fits and the fan reaction followed. Naomi comes across as a shy sweet quiet girl just like Jade does but she can hide that within an actual character

 

[Easy-E]

Someone (it was probably on here) mentioned the other day that she's been champion for like 8 or 9 months and I was

I watch the shows and I didn't realize it had been that long.

1/3/25

 

[Straw Hat Luffy]

This is a great point

To another point you made tho I think time and faith is running out on "Jade just needs more reps" It's becoming a crutch. And sure they got rid of house shows but Jade was there when they had plenty of house shows and it's still the same excuse being made every year

Does Jade have an athletic background? I ask because Logan and Angle weren't "naturals" they had a specific, very specialized athletic background. Olympic style wrestling will prepare you for just about any sport. That's the real reason Angle and Logan picked everything up so quickly. My point about Jade not being smooth lends to a lack of athleticism that you tend to notice off the bat

I think Tiffany Strongface sucks but she at the very least gets from point A to B in a relatively smooth manner. This means a lot. Jade is like a rapper with lyrics but no flow

"She just needs more reps" is losing its luster, especially when she's been taken off of TV for training, done house shows, and has been paired with superior wrestlers for training and knowledge. The whole Jade thing wouldn't be an issue if she wasn't looked at as the next big thing. But she is looked at as the next big thing

Olympic wrestlers have the upper hand in being good in the ring and panning out but there’s always examples of Gabe Stevenson. But nah we are really downplaying how hard it is and long it takes to develop a star.

Brock Lesnar the only dude I watched growing up be pushed to the moon, main event wrestlemania his first time on the card and nobody question it and he fit right in. Brock fukking Lesnar bro.

I tried using Logan and angle as examples because it’s not the norm. For every success there’s like 100,000 failures of wrestlers we don’t think about anymore.

And nah Jade should be cut some slack. She does need the reps. If you compare house shows now to 20 years ago the ratio of house shows is damn near tilted to one side.

It’s like we forgot how things used to be. Dudes were either on the indies for years before getting to the big promotions or they went to the big promotion systems.

Dudes would be in OVW for 2 to 3 years. Be a no name or lower card jobber on the main roster for a year or two. Get pushed in the mid card for at least a year and then MAYBE move up the ranks.

Now all of that is erased and fans expectations are ridiculously stupid.

Dudes will watch trick Williams on nxt for three years and swear he should be world champion material on the main roster and then be shocked when wrestlers of his elk don’t shine the brightest as soon as they get to the big time.

It’s like, duh, no named guy with less than five years of experience wrestling other wrestlers of no named valued of 4 years experience flounders on the main roster with the big names. No shyt.


Wrestling fans need to put their unrealistic expectations to the side. Look at this as a job…. Why you think jobs always asking for 8+ years or 10+ years on the resume when it comes to $100,000?

The person with 3 years experience ain’t really that good and wet behind the ears