Austin and Bret were the same size
Jake The Snake on Queenzflip - HBK & Bret Hart Worst Champs Ever
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Austin and Bret were the same size
Here Comes the Pain
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No they wasn't
King P
Legends Never Die
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I was more surprised that Vince let Shawn be the guy than Bret primarily due to his size. Bret wasn’t that small, but Shawn was Rock N Roll Express-sized. I never thought they would let him be more than IC champ and guy who loses to the world champ.
I liked Shawn as a heel champ, not so much as a face. He always put on a great match and was entertaining on the mic, especially DX era.
I liked Shawn as a heel champ, not so much as a face. He always put on a great match and was entertaining on the mic, especially DX era.
Art Barr
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The takeaway from this video by these closeted homos was the criticism of hbKKK and bret hart that plenty of people have already said and not the fact that Vince was colluding with Jake's therapist so that he could exploit him further.
other than me,...
when have there been any good reviewers in this community.
stop looking for those gooflames on here to give you a good rant.
it been twenty three years.
they are not good at reviewing anything like:
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Except this is already demonstrably proven false lol.
Stone Cold and The Rock couldn’t have been Stone Cold and The Rock prior to the changes made to the industry during the attitude era in which they were allowed to cuss and be quick-witted asskicking antiheros. See: Rocky Maivia and The Ringmaster and how they drew.
Attitude era changes to the business made everyone better.
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Rocky Maivia was WWE creative..as was the Ringmaster. They created the Rock and Stone Cold and their characters were show stealers and audience movers. Charisma. Bret and Michaels didn't innovate or captivate like they
..just like Patrick Ewing couldn't do what Jordan did nor could Charles Barkley. They just weren't great enough.
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HBK and Hitman weren’t Austin and Rock. No one’s saying that. It’s just that Austin and Rock couldn’t have been Austin and Rock without the ok from management during the Monday night wars renaissance. Everyone mentioned was able to be more compelling in the late 90’s WWF than before after they switched from family programming to targeting the 18-34 demographic.
HBK was way more interesting as an attitude era heel than he was as a face champion. He couldn’t have been the smart ass douchebag leader of DX humping the Canadian flag and doing all those crazy antics before. There couldn’t have been a DX prior to 97.
Just like Diesel was
as WWF champ but did legendary shyt when he was allowed to flourish with a good angle in WCW.
No. Austin was not supposed to be the man. When the shirt sales got high after King of the ring 96...then McMahon paid attention. Rocky had a more corporate face push but it was doomed anyway because the world was about THUG LIFE and the Nwo being hot on the other side. When he changed up, the crowd treated midcard Rocky like a superstar for WHATEVER REASON. They just did. It's just how it was. Walking to the ring to Rocky SUCKS chants while the crowd ignored the Nation...he was easy money. Then he outperformed everyone in all facets every week...Michaels and Bret never had that impact. Razor was hot heading into 96 but they stuck with that weak Bret and Shawn shyt over him.HBK and Hitman weren’t Austin and Rock. No one’s saying that. It’s just that Austin and Rock couldn’t have been Austin and Rock without the ok from management during the Monday night wars renaissance. Everyone mentioned was able to be more compelling in the late 90’s WWF than before after they switched from family programming to targeting the 18-34 demographic.
HBK was way more interesting as an attitude era heel than he was as a face champion. He couldn’t have been the smart ass douchebag leader of DX humping the Canadian flag and doing all those crazy antics before. There couldn’t have been a DX prior to 97.
Just like Diesel was
Nash stood out because they played off the notion of WWF invading WCW...that's how it all caught fire for them. It was ingenius at the time. Especially after the Hogan turn.
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Bruh you said great wrestlers would draw in any era. This is already disproven by the fact that Austin was a WCW mid-carder who got fired cause Bischoff said he couldn’t draw (although I loved the Hollywood Blondes), then was in ECW, then was the Ringmaster before he was allowed to tap into his natural creative talents and become a megastar. He was 32 when he blew up. He was a catalyst himself, but he had the right set of conditions. He said in interviews he ran the Stone Cold character by management and they ok’ed it. And this was during a time where WWF had to compete with the insurgent WCW who was dragging them in the ratings and they made a decision to market to the 18-34 demographic with more adult programming.
Wrestling was dying in the early to mid 90’s. They were only getting diehards and kids. The Monday night war era changed everything because they were now putting on cool R-rated entertaining fukkery teens and young adults can get with. That’s why it’s a bit simplistic to blame the lack of draw at the time of most of their championship reigns on just them. If The Rock was around in the early 90’s he probably would’ve been a Lex Luger/Sting type babyface in that era, not a transcendent megastar.
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KevCo
Bond's gun spoke once....
Not for nothing, he called JeriGOAT overated...so i stopped listening to his opinions 
Chrome2279
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These fukkin marks still believe Jake was more popular than Hogan cause of DDT chants at one house.
let’s see....
Yeah I see pops every time he hit the ddt... Jake was over as hell.
supertrekker
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Never said he wasn't over with the fans. I just said he wasn't more over than Hogan.
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Cornette basically said Jake is hating. And he said Hitman would beat his ass in a fair one.
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