Jamal Crawford explains how Westbrook is viewed differently between players and "stat guys"

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Cacs ruined NBA by gentrifying it :hubie:

Exactly.

Its the reason why I loved early 2000s basketball so much. Very few cacs liked the NBA then. It was more of a hood sport. And the players exemplified it with their style and play. David Stern instituting the dress code might have increased cac interest in the league but it destroyed the sports authetincally black cultural roots.

Now the NBA is essentially a white endorsed sport. Even the style of play with all this 3-point shooting versus the street ball one on one style of the early 2000s has been brought in to placate their tastes.

The black influenced NBA as we know it died a long time ago. What we have now is some bizzaro cac inspired sport.
 

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Exactly.

Its the reason why I loved early 2000s basketball. Very few cacs liked the NBA then. It was more of a hood sport. And the players exemplified it with their style and play. David Stern instituting the dress code might have increased cac interest in the league but it destroyed the sports authetincally black cultural roots.

Now the NBA is essentially a white endorsed sport. Even the style of play with all this 3-point shooting versus the street ball one on one style of the early has been brought in to placate their tastes.

The black influenced NBA as we know it died a long time ago. What we have now is some bizzaro cac inspired sport.
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What the fukk are you talking about???
 

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I agree with jamal and think Westbrook a legend.

theres a middle ground somewhere here.

players are in awe of his hustle, heart, athleticism, and general toughness.

while tv analyst think his surface-level are conflated and where “it matters” he is inefficient. And they are also biased and have their own agendas either to the viewer and/or bosses.

both things can be true.


but, Id be more interested in active coaches opinions on westbrooks play. If they ever spoke candidly about it.
 
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:dwillhuh:

What the fukk are you talking about???

Back in the early 2000s I only remember black people talking about it daily. Cacs were more into the NFL, MLB, and college football. I went to a high school that was about 50% black and 50% white. And only the brothas were into the NBA heavy. We were the only ones arguing Kobe vs A.I. vs T-Mac.

It wasn't until I was in college around 2006-2007 that I first saw white dudes my age that were into the NBA heavy.
 

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Exactly.

Its the reason why I loved early 2000s basketball so much. Very few cacs liked the NBA then. It was more of a hood sport. And the players exemplified it with their style and play. David Stern instituting the dress code might have increased cac interest in the league but it destroyed the sports authetincally black cultural roots.

Now the NBA is essentially a white endorsed sport. Even the style of play with all this 3-point shooting versus the street ball one on one style of the early 2000s has been brought in to placate their tastes.

The black influenced NBA as we know it died a long time ago. What we have now is some bizzaro cac inspired sport.

You do realize basketball was created by a white man, and the base concepts of the sport were mostly engineered by white men?

fukk are you talking about?
 

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I agree with jamal and think Westbrook a legend.

theres a middle ground somewhere here.

players are in awe of his hustle, heart, athleticism, and general toughness.

while tv analyst think his surface-level are conflated and where “it matters” he is inefficient. And they are also biased and have their own agendas either to the viewer and/or bosses.

both things can be true.


but, Id be more interested in active coaches opinions on westbrooks play. If they ever spoke candidly about it.
There is no middle ground. Jamal just gave you the temperature of the players, but now you’d be more interested in what the coaches have to say? Nah, you seem to be looking for validation fir the narrative that’s anti- Russ. In that short clip Jamal said a mouthful, and if this was a more likable player, then everyone would sing a different tune. But it’s Russ, so his peers perspective doesn’t matter, you need to hear the coaches instead. Smh. I’d always trust active players opinions on active players, especially from their era.
 
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You do realize basketball was created by a white man, and the base concepts of the sport were mostly engineered by white men?

fukk are you talking about?

The NBA as we know it was built by black players. If only cacs still played it, it would have never reached the popularity it has now. Who gives a fukk if some cac thought up of the idea. Basketball as we know it was made by the black athlete.
 

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Back in the early 2000s I only remember black people talking about it daily. Cacs were more into the NFL, MLB, and college football. I went to a high school that was about 50% black and 50% white. And only the brothas were into the NBA heavy. We were the only ones arguing Kobe vs A.I. vs T-Mac.

It wasn't until I was in college around 2006-2007 that I first saw white dudes my age that were into the NBA heavy.
Ohhhhh, that makes sense. The Black kids at your high school watched basketball so therefore the NBA didn't have white fans in the early 2000s. Got it.

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Idc if you think he’s stat padding honestly. One thing you can say about Russ tho is you could
Never question his heart or effort for better or worse.

This is why I've never criticized Russ for his flaws. I respect what he does night in and night out so much that to me its disrespectful to say anything but praise for him.

Just think about it this way. Kobe, Iverson, and Jordan have all said he's the player in today's game that reminds them the most of themselves. To me there is no higher honor for a current player than to get the cosign from the 3 toughest players in NBA history.
 
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