James Harden or Carmelo Anthony

[mvp_status]

I hate threads like this where people say outlandish things on BOTH sides of the argument.

Glad I'm not the only one seeing this.

 

[Styles]

I hate threads like this where people say outlandish things on BOTH sides of the argument. Very few objective posts in here. You have guys putting Harden in a group that would make him a top 5-10 player then you have guys who are either incredibly biased or don't watch as much basketball as they claim saying they're not even close and it's a ridiculous comparison.

As for the topic at hand, I think it's too premature to put Harden up with Melo. There has to be some type of sliding scale that balances out regular season and post season performance. Harden is balling now but I think we need to see him as the lead dog in the 'offs before we start saying which top 10 players that he's better than. At the end of the day, in the NBA your tier/status is determined by what you do in the playoffs. It's not a knock on Harden. Let that man earn his respect. He'll get his shot soon enough hopefully.

And if he doesn't I bet it would make for a great day for some of the people on this forum. Guys in this thread talking about "Lets see him take his team to the playoffs", I agree but so what if he doesn't? The Rockets where supposed to win about 20 games (hopefully) before the trade and I don't recall hearing/seeing one person make the comment that the Rockets would/should make the playoffs even with Harden. I don't remember anyone (on here, other sites, radio, tv, etc.) picking the Rockets to win over 35 games. This guy leads the youngest team in the league. I think the Rockets are the only team under the cap in the entire league. The Rockets are definitely overachieving and there are a lot of ya'll that are moving the goalposts on your arguments acting like they aren't.

Lastly I keep seeing some of the same ridiculous arguments to discredit Harden. How does he get "lucky" foul calls if he has an intended plan (driving to the basket) and proceeds to carry it out? That's not luck, it's skill. Phantom fouls? Go to a game and hear the loud slaps then come and tell me he wasn't fouled. Too many foul shots? Are there even 3 players in the entire league that attack the basket like Harden? Some of ya'll must think you have to drive and then make some acrobatic, reckless attempt at a dunk or layup to get a foul call. Dude's eurostep is the best I have EVER seen and is designed to bait clumsy post players into fouling him in a way that he doesn't take hard collisions. Some of ya'll make the most ridiculous comments...

I hope people actually read all of this. But this IS the Coli

 

[intruder]

For the time being I think Melo still much better.

But if building a team for the future and factor in age and skill set you may wanna consider Harden

 

[23Barrettcity]

I hate threads like this where people say outlandish things on BOTH sides of the argument. Very few objective posts in here. You have guys putting Harden in a group that would make him a top 5-10 player then you have guys who are either incredibly biased or don't watch as much basketball as they claim saying they're not even close and it's a ridiculous comparison.

As for the topic at hand, I think it's too premature to put Harden up with Melo. There has to be some type of sliding scale that balances out regular season and post season performance. Harden is balling now but I think we need to see him as the lead dog in the 'offs before we start saying which top 10 players that he's better than. At the end of the day, in the NBA your tier/status is determined by what you do in the playoffs. It's not a knock on Harden. Let that man earn his respect. He'll get his shot soon enough hopefully.

And if he doesn't I bet it would make for a great day for some of the people on this forum. Guys in this thread talking about "Lets see him take his team to the playoffs", I agree but so what if he doesn't? The Rockets where supposed to win about 20 games (hopefully) before the trade and I don't recall hearing/seeing one person make the comment that the Rockets would/should make the playoffs even with Harden. I don't remember anyone (on here, other sites, radio, tv, etc.) picking the Rockets to win over 35 games. This guy leads the youngest team in the league. I think the Rockets are the only team under the cap in the entire league. The Rockets are definitely overachieving and there are a lot of ya'll that are moving the goalposts on your arguments acting like they aren't.

Lastly I keep seeing some of the same ridiculous arguments to discredit Harden. How does he get "lucky" foul calls if he has an intended plan (driving to the basket) and proceeds to carry it out? That's not luck, it's skill. Phantom fouls? Go to a game and hear the loud slaps then come and tell me he wasn't fouled. Too many foul shots? Are there even 3 players in the entire league that attack the basket like Harden? Some of ya'll must think you have to drive and then make some acrobatic, reckless attempt at a dunk or layup to get a foul call. Dude's eurostep is the best I have EVER seen and is designed to bait clumsy post players into fouling him in a way that he doesn't take hard collisions. Some of ya'll make the most ridiculous comments...

So what exactly should we grade harden on ? nothing ? Melo took a lottery team to the playoffs his first year in the league. if we are going to try and say harden is better we need something to base it on .
And with the fouls come on anytime someone says that a player has the best something I've ever seen is hyperbole . I've seen him recklessly run into the aisle and whip his head exaggerating contact . Melo gets hit all the time literally in the post yet he doesn't get those calls

 

[L@CaT]

I hate threads like this where people say outlandish things on BOTH sides of the argument. Very few objective posts in here. You have guys putting Harden in a group that would make him a top 5-10 player then you have guys who are either incredibly biased or don't watch as much basketball as they claim saying they're not even close and it's a ridiculous comparison.

As for the topic at hand, I think it's too premature to put Harden up with Melo. There has to be some type of sliding scale that balances out regular season and post season performance. Harden is balling now but I think we need to see him as the lead dog in the 'offs before we start saying which top 10 players that he's better than. At the end of the day, in the NBA your tier/status is determined by what you do in the playoffs. It's not a knock on Harden. Let that man earn his respect. He'll get his shot soon enough hopefully.

And if he doesn't I bet it would make for a great day for some of the people on this forum. Guys in this thread talking about "Lets see him take his team to the playoffs", I agree but so what if he doesn't? The Rockets where supposed to win about 20 games (hopefully) before the trade and I don't recall hearing/seeing one person make the comment that the Rockets would/should make the playoffs even with Harden. I don't remember anyone (on here, other sites, radio, tv, etc.) picking the Rockets to win over 35 games. This guy leads the youngest team in the league. I think the Rockets are the only team under the cap in the entire league. The Rockets are definitely overachieving and there are a lot of ya'll that are moving the goalposts on your arguments acting like they aren't.

Lastly I keep seeing some of the same ridiculous arguments to discredit Harden. How does he get "lucky" foul calls if he has an intended plan (driving to the basket) and proceeds to carry it out? That's not luck, it's skill. Phantom fouls? Go to a game and hear the loud slaps then come and tell me he wasn't fouled. Too many foul shots? Are there even 3 players in the entire league that attack the basket like Harden? Some of ya'll must think you have to drive and then make some acrobatic, reckless attempt at a dunk or layup to get a foul call. Dude's eurostep is the best I have EVER seen and is designed to bait clumsy post players into fouling him in a way that he doesn't take hard collisions. Some of ya'll make the most ridiculous comments...

well said

 

[Hammer]

just watch this clippers game and you'll find out why it's carmelo

 

[ill]

Melo>>

Melo has the potential to be top 3 in the league behind Lebron and Durant.

Harden doesn't come close.

 

[L@CaT]

just watch this clippers game and you'll find out why it's carmelo

Yeah, Melo one of the few dudes in the NBA who will score 40 points in a game and his Team STILL GETS BLOWN OUT

 

[ThaBronxBully]

Yeah, Melo one of the few dudes in the NBA who will score 40 points in a game and his Team STILL GETS BLOWN OUT

So You're Saying He Should Of Scored 80 You Idiot?

How Bout His Teammates Try Chipping In

But I Know How People Base Their Opinions On This Site, Your Only As Good As Your Last Win

 

[L@CaT]

So You're Saying He Should Of Scored 80 You Idiot?

How Bout His Teammates Try Chipping In

But I Know How People Base Their Opinions On This Site, Your Only As Good As Your Last Win

Im saying Melo is half the Playmaker Harden Is you Dumbfuk

Niqqa scoring 40 points and your TEam still getting blown out?

The only thing Melo has over HArden is scoring and thats a by a slim Margin

HArden is the better playmaker, the better facilitator, The MORE EFFICIENT SCORER, and Actually make his underachieving Teammates better

Something Melo does very little of

 

[ThaBronxBully]

Im saying Melo is half the Playmaker Harden Is you Dumbfuk

Niqqa scoring 40 points and your TEam still getting blown out?

The only thing Melo has over HArden is scoring and thats a by a slim Margin

HArden is the better playmaker, the better facilitator, The MORE EFFICIENT SCORER, and Actually make his underachieving Teammates better

Something Melo does very little of

Better Facilitaor? Hes A Guard And Melo Is A Forward You fukking Retard, Their Jobs On Their Respect Teams Are VERY Different

 

[L@CaT]

Better Facilitaor? Hes A Guard And Melo Is A Forward You fukking Retard, Their Jobs On Their Respect Teams Are VERY Different

Harden is Technically a SG, his role technically isnt to facilitate but to score..But he still excels at the PG Guard Role because he has the Basketball IQ to do So

Lebron plays the Role of a Facilitator because he has the Basketball IQ TO DO SO

Carmelo Doesnt play that ROLE BECAUSE HE IS NOT CAPABLE, PERIOD...


and you DONT AVG DAMN Near 30 Points a Game like Melo without the Ball in your hands retard

But Like I Stated the Only Thing Melo Does well is Score

Harden Does damn near everything else better than Him.. One on One Defense being debateable

 

[mvp_status]

Harden Does damn near everything else better than Him.. One on One Defense being debateable

The only thing Harden does clearly better is facilitate. Is he better scorer? No. Better rebounder? No. Better Defender? Debatable.

"Harden does everything else better". Harden is not Lebron James. Stop it with the hyperbole

 

[Youngdev]

Harden is Technically a SG, his role technically isnt to facilitate but to score..But he still excels at the PG Guard Role because he has the Basketball IQ to do So

Lebron plays the Role of a Facilitator because he has the Basketball IQ TO DO SO

Carmelo Doesnt play that ROLE BECAUSE HE IS NOT CAPABLE, PERIOD...


and you DONT AVG DAMN Near 30 Points a Game like Melo without the Ball in your hands retard

But Like I Stated the Only Thing Melo Does well is Score

Harden Does damn near everything else better than Him.. One on One Defense being debateable

He is more efficient cause he gets to the line more on some shaq type shyt with that euro step, Melo shoots better from the field and from three and is also a better rebounder.

Harden is a better playmaker and better at the Euro step...........that's it. Not sure where you got this damn near everything else shyt from.

 

[L@CaT]

He is more efficient cause he gets to the line more on some shaq type shyt with that euro step, Melo shoots better from the field and from three and is also a better rebounder.

Harden is a better playmaker and better at the Euro step...........that's it. Not sure where you got this damn near everything else shyt from.