GreatestLaker
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Harden> Melo
Its not even debatable at this point. Look at their production for the last 2 months.
Its not even debatable at this point. Look at their production for the last 2 months.
James Harden or Carmelo Anthony
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you're pathetic. Harden isn't even on the same level on joe Johnson
The differences between their USG-rates are miniscule if you were to re-calculate the formula as:
individual free throw attempts = 0.5 instead of 0.44
team free throw attempts = 0.5 instead of 0.44
pace were taken into account with FGAs
That's why you're never gonna get an even close to accurate reading of their usage rates, if both of their teams don't have relatively the same pace, personnels and structure. If you watch both the Knicks and Rockets play, it isn't hard to see that they have about the same amount of ball touches (Harden probably more, due to bringing up the ball and starting the offense).
It makes a whole lot of sense that he wouldn't average 26 PPG on the Knicks. Harden's current game isn't tailored for half-court basketball, the Knicks are a half court team. Harden benefits from playing on a fast paced team (1st in the league) and the Knicks are a slow paced team (25th in the league); his flaws more would be more noticeable, although he'd have one thing weighing in his favor, in that the Knicks are a high-3pta team.
His fastbreak points would be significantly cut down: Houston are 2nd in the league and New York are 2nd to last in the league. Plus they wouldn't have the amount of success if you were to replace Melo with Harden, it'd be an imbalance on offense.
Felton/Kidd
Harden/JR Smith/Shumpert
White/Novak/Copeland
Copeland/Martin/Stoudemire (injured)
Chandler/Thomas
No balance whatsoever in backcourt/frontcourt scoring and Harden/Smith couldn't co-exist on the court. Harden's 3pt% would drop being in a slower pace + he has virtually no midrange game at all, only shooting 35% on jumpers and would likely drop with more takes + wouldn't have enough touches of the ball, due to pace and cluster of greater wing personnel touches + wouldn't average 10+ free throws on the Knicks - to avg 26 PPG.
Picture the Knicks winning 38 games so far, if they had a starting PF/C combination of: Rasheed Wallace, Tyson Chandler, Kenyon Martin, Chris Copeland, Marcus Camby and Kurt Thomas.
livindajetlife
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Since When Did We Start Clocking Assist For Forwards?
Lebron.. seriously, since he came in the lg its not about just ppg nomore, its what else does he do...
What I Dont Get Is People Will Spend 2 Hours Till Their Blue In The Face Saying Melo Aint Seeing Lebron And How LeBron Is Superior But Then Question Every Night Why Isnt Melo Having LeBron Like Assists And Court Vision
Well If Melo Isnt On His Level Why Are We STILL Comparing It?
Melo Is Not, Never Has Been, And Never Will Be A Facilitator Who Can Run PG If Asked
So All This Assist Talk Is Pointless
livindajetlife
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Yeah i understand what your saying... but lebrons like the golden standard for forwards statistically ... so if you have players that ppl will say one of the best in the game especially another forward then thats where the lebron comparisons will come... it is what it is
melo just having fun out there
Disgusting that this is even a comparison. Melo is 10x the player.
Dat916nigga
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watching james harden play makes my skin crawl
GreatestLaker
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So that's why Harden has better season stats?Disgusting that this is even a comparison. Melo is 10x the player.
Melo is better because he had ONE good game?
You nikkas kill me. Melo is struggling to shoot above 40% for the season, but yeah he is better.
Breh you don't know shyt about hoops. Harden is shooting 24% on jumpers.So that's why Harden has better season stats?
Melo is better because he had ONE good game?
You nikkas kill me. Melo is struggling to shoot above 40% for the season, but yeah he is better.
You could see the difference in their games tonight when they're side-by-side. One dude showed just about every single offensive move to get his points whereas the other just flopped about looking to get sent to the foul line. This is not even close to a debate, Melo is leaps and bounds a better player. Anybody that tries to say any different is flat out wrong.
stepbackj34spud
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Breh you don't know shyt about hoops. Harden is shooting 24% on jumpers.
You could see the difference in their games tonight. One dude showed just about ever single offensive move to get his points whereas the other just flopped about looking to get sent to the foul line. This is not even close to a debate, Melo is leaps and bounds a better player. Anybody that tries to say any different is flat out wrong.
I agree. Harden has one of the worst games for a high scoring player I've ever seen.
kurt
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If only Melo got those touch fouls that this bearded fakkit gets....shyt is so annoying to watch.