James Harden Turns Down 52 million Extension, Wants Max

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Eliminating max contracts would just inflate salaries everywhere. There's no easy way out. It's all in how teams view Harden, and even if he's not truly worth the max, it's a matter of how much extra you wanna pay to get him out of OKC.

Not true as long as there is a cap. The only salaries that would inflate would be the true max players aka the guys who deserve it. All max salaries do is give front offices an excuse not to think and non-max players something to reach for. You didn't see nikkas in the pre-max days asking to make as much as Mike yet in today's league you got Brook Lopex making the same as Bron. :what: You take away the max and salaries would be more in line with what guys are actually worth because it would all be based on that individual player rather than a slot.
 

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52 million for one of the 20-25 best players in the NBA is kinda low.....But then again he is not even starting and hasn't shown what he can do as the guy.

how much do you think he deserves:heh:
dats a fair ass contract
especially with a team who already has 2 REAL max players

ofcourse he can probably get more from a bum team but then he'll become irrevelant
 
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They were gonna have to let one go, and I think 99% of folks would agree Harden is the most expendable. Don't get me twisted Harden is a great player but you gotta stick with Durant and Westbrook by any means

If I was Durant I'd reconstruct my deal to help increase the OKC offer to Harden. Durant is making major dough from every angle, he could afford it - put he has another contract in him at least. Perhaps that would show Harden he's really valued, although of course he could still take way more money from another team

:usure:Ask Agent Zero for advice about that
 

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People in here really think he's not getting the max? :heh:

OKC is just trying to low-ball him. Harden's gonna wait til free agency, get offered the max from somebody, then OKC's gonna match it. When that happens, Perk is gonna amnestied and the Thunder won't miss a beat.
 

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He will get the MAX from another team. There are not that many talented SGs in the league. He has leverage because Kobe is about to retire soon, Dwade is going to slow down in a couple of years. The SG position is going through attrition and teams need instant offense and that is what he provides. I always felt that Harden is being used to come of the bench to lessen his value when his contract is up. That will now work any more. He is a legit 25 ppg scorer if he gets starter minutes and more touches. NBA executives know this.
 

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OKC should trade him for Reke and a future 1st rounder.

OKC would then have to pay Tyreke and I don't even think they'd want to.

lets deal with reality
no team with james harden as their best player
is making the playoffs

dat pretty much tells you right there dat him gettin a max is retarded

hes a solid solid role player dat benefits from playing with 2 top 10 players in da league

i like his game but come on
Nobody said you had to be the best player on your team to get maxed out.
 

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Not true as long as there is a cap. The only salaries that would inflate would be the true max players aka the guys who deserve it. All max salaries do is give front offices an excuse not to think and non-max players something to reach for. You didn't see nikkas in the pre-max days asking to make as much as Mike yet in today's league you got Brook Lopex making the same as Bron. :what: You take away the max and salaries would be more in line with what guys are actually worth because it would all be based on that individual player rather than a slot.
Brook Lopez is NOT making the same amount as LeBron. The max deal you get after your rookie scale deal is up is different from the one you get later. LeBron makes more.

If you get rid of a cap, someone like say Anthony Davis would be getting KG money before he ever suits up. Like I said, it inflates salaries across the board. Just because LeBron could conceivably earn $30-$35 mil a season doesn't mean overpaid guys' salaries now would remain the same. Look at MLB. When payrolls increase, so do the salaries that come with it. If you give a reckless owner more money to play with what do you think he's gonna do? Tighten the belt?
 

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He will get the MAX from another team. There are not that many talented SGs in the league. He has leverage because Kobe is about to retire soon, Dwade is going to slow down in a couple of years. The SG position is going through attrition and teams need instant offense and that is what he provides. I always felt that Harden is being used to come of the bench to lessen his value when his contract is up. That will now work any more. He is a legit 25 ppg scorer if he gets starter minutes and more touches. NBA executives know this.

:whoa: slow down their he's no where near close to being that type of player :dead:. hes a good 2nd/3rd option, he'd be a worse first option then rudy gay is right now
 

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He will get the MAX from another team. There are not that many talented SGs in the league. He has leverage because Kobe is about to retire soon, Dwade is going to slow down in a couple of years. The SG position is going through attrition and teams need instant offense and that is what he provides. I always felt that Harden is being used to come of the bench to lessen his value when his contract is up. That will now work any more. He is a legit 25 ppg scorer if he gets starter minutes and more touches. NBA executives know this.

I've never believed this a day in my life. There's a big difference between getting buckets off the bench and getting 25 when teams are zoning in primarily on you. Russell Westbrook has yet to average 25. 4 players did it last year and only a handful do it annually. That doesn't mean guys like Harden and Bynum would be locks to do it in their own situation.
 

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:whoa: slow down their he's no where near close to being that type of player :dead:. hes a good 2nd/3rd option.

He definitely has the potential and I will say if he gets the max and goes another team where he gets the looks, he could do it, not every year though. Dude is a good athlete and is a very good shooter and efficient as well.
 

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I've never believed this a day in my life. There's a big difference between getting buckets off the bench and getting 25 when teams are zoning in primarily you. Russell Westbrook has yet to average 25. 4 players did it last year and only a handful do it annually. That doesn't mean guys like Harden and Bynum would be locks to do it in their own situation.

I respect your opinion fam. I will settle for around 23 ppg which is doable for him if he get the green light on another team. Could probably do it on the rockets if they move Kevin Martin. The Rockets roster is :huhldup:
 
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