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[Jmare007]

I mean they had to put the belt on Jay White. They top dogs gone, gotta create more stars, plus the show literally called a new beginning. Plus he the perfect heel for Naito to chase: smarmy, arrogant prick who don’t deserve the title or be the leader of the biggest faction in pro wrestling. His title win is perfect business. Then, if the Jay White Experiment flop, u can always put the belt on Naito OR back on Okada or Tanahashi.

They didn't have to do anything. Gedo puts the belt on Ibushi and it makes tons of business while developing a guy like SANADA as a real contender. And they still haven't given Naito his rightful reign. There's no need to rush and experiment with White right now.

I'd rather have a 1 year smiling Finn Balor IWGP title reign over any Jay White reign.

I'd rather have neither

 

[PlayerNinety_Nine]

BREATHE IN WITH THE SWITCHBLADE

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[Ill Lou Malnati]

Jay White is fine but is he a top guy? I dont think so. That and the fact that he has called himself "knife pervert" just adds extra to this

I guess they're counting on the belt making the man. I can see where people resent his push... went over Omega, Okada, and Tanahashi... great showing in G1... leader of Bullet Club... now world champ. I think he's a good talent, so I don't have a problem with any of it. I'd rather see what comes of this than Okada or Tanahashi on top again. This is more interesting for me.

And knife pervert?

 

[FooFighters]

I mean they had to put the belt on Jay White. They top dogs gone, gotta create more stars, plus the show literally called a new beginning. Plus he the perfect heel for Naito to chase: smarmy, arrogant prick who don’t deserve the title or be the leader of the biggest faction in pro wrestling. His title win is perfect business. Then, if the Jay White Experiment flop, u can always put the belt on Naito OR back on Okada or Tanahashi.

Please no, no more.


Give it to Natio

 

[krackdagawd]

I'd rather see what comes of this than Okada

gave us all classics and this how we treat him

 

[TheGodling]

They didn't have to do anything. Gedo puts the belt on Ibushi and it makes tons of business while developing a guy like SANADA as a real contender. And they still haven't given Naito his rightful reign. There's no need to rush and experiment with White right now.

Yeah, they don't need new stars when you got fukking Naito and Ibushi on your roster and neither one has had a (proper) run with the belt and they could've let White season himself in the midcard for a year or two. Naito is just wasting time holding on to the Intercontinental title, and as long as he holds it, it gives no room for SANADA to evolve beyond his role in LIJ unless Gedo builds him into a contender for the NEVER belt.

 

[Legal]

Yeah, they don't need new stars when you got fukking Naito and Ibushi on your roster and neither one has had a (proper) run with the belt and they could've let White season himself in the midcard for a year or two. Naito is just wasting time holding on to the Intercontinental title, and as long as he holds it, it gives no room for SANADA to evolve beyond his role in LIJ unless Gedo builds him into a contender for the NEVER belt.

I agree and disagree.

There are tons of guys ready to move up in the card, but there will almost always be a log jam at the top until Okada and Tanahashi retire or willingly move into a lower card role. On top of that, the IWGP title is really the only title they make any kind of attempt to protect, so there are always going to be guys that never get a run that deserved it. Also, as much as I'd love an Ibushi run, that shyt ain't happening until he signs a full time contract with them. They're not about to let a freelancer have a run with the IWGP title.

But they really do need to have new stars in the rotation because just as they're trying to make inroads here in the states, WWE isn't even attempting to hide that they're coming for Japan after they're done flattening the UK. They have absolutely no use for Kushida, but they (allegedly, since it's not official yet) signed him as soon as they had the chance. And there's word of them trying to get a NXT Japan off the ground. Realistically speaking, NJPW probably can't offer the same money as WWE. If a talent gets offered more pay to stay in Japan and reach a larger audience, it'd be difficult to say no. Better to have people ready instead of having to pull shyt out of their ass if there's a talent exodus.

It also looks like the real star making moment for Naito (as if he wasn't already ) to do something that none of the other top guys have been able to do right now vs him taking it off Tanahashi or Okada just so people can wait for him to immediately drop it back to Tanahashi or Okada

I really just hope this leads to an infusion of new main events, because they've run through most of their pairings with their current top guys.

 

[Jmare007]

I agree and disagree.

There are tons of guys ready to move up in the card, but there will almost always be a log jam at the top until Okada and Tanahashi retire or willingly move into a lower card role. On top of that, the IWGP title is really the only title they make any kind of attempt to protect, so there are always going to be guys that never get a run that deserved it. Also, as much as I'd love an Ibushi run, that shyt ain't happening until he signs a full time contract with them. They're not about to let a freelancer have a run with the IWGP title.

But they really do need to have new stars in the rotation because just as they're trying to make inroads here in the states, WWE isn't even attempting to hide that they're coming for Japan after they're done flattening the UK. They have absolutely no use for Kushida, but they (allegedly, since it's not official yet) signed him as soon as they had the chance. And there's word of them trying to get a NXT Japan off the ground. Realistically speaking, NJPW probably can't offer the same money as WWE. If a talent gets offered more pay to stay in Japan and reach a larger audience, it'd be difficult to say no. Better to have people ready instead of having to pull shyt out of their ass if there's a talent exodus.

It also looks like the real star making moment for Naito (as if he wasn't already ) to do something that none of the other top guys have been able to do right now vs him taking it off Tanahashi or Okada just so people can wait for him to immediately drop it back to Tanahashi or Okada

None of this has anything to do with hotshotting White though. He doesn't solve any of the issues you stated

And let's be real, being the first one to beat White doesn't mean jackshyt in the big picture, specially for a dude like Naito. Being a double champ (if they ever go that route) would eclipse anything. so who he beats doesn't really matter.

I really just hope this leads to an infusion of new main events, because they've run through most of their pairings with their current top guys.

I've been hoping that for almost 4 years now The only one was Kenny Omega, and that was out of left field as I never thought he could make it as a heavyweight star, and dude became a huge deal.

 

[SubZeroDegrees]

Watch Gedo book Okada vs White for MSG, with Okada winning the belt again

This is so Gedo, I won't be surprised.

 

[MightyHealthy]

First reply to that Finn tweet is savage:

I guess they're counting on the belt making the man. I can see where people resent his push... went over Omega, Okada, and Tanahashi... great showing in G1... leader of Bullet Club... now world champ. I think he's a good talent, so I don't have a problem with any of it. I'd rather see what comes of this than Okada or Tanahashi on top again. This is more interesting for me.

And knife pervert?

Chuck Taylor called him that in a tweet, it became a meme, Jay took it in stride.

 

[The Rainmaker]

 

[Legal]

Damn. Looks like he broke up with Omega.

 

[krackdagawd]

this ibushi promo got the japanese neckbeard thots like at his every word he'll get the belt of this bytch nikka

 

[THE 101]

This generic cocksucker is gonna main event the MSG show?

He's got to be fukking Harold's daughter....he's officially HHH in 1999 now.

 

[PlayerNinety_Nine]

Harold defintely wore this outfit to the contract negotiation.