Jay Gruden: McCoy is the best QB on the roster

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:pacspit: Fukk this unprofessional attention whore. Clearly has a personal problem with RG3. Media is acting like this nikka isn't coming back from 2 major injuries:why:. They refuse to give him time to get completely healthy and back in the flow. He might be physically healthy, but mentally he's clearly still not trusting his legs. We know what a healthy, mentally right RG3 can do. For all the ppl who says he can't throw in the pocket, that's a load of bs:stopitslime:. What set him appart his first year was his ability to throw accurately in the pocket. To this day, rookie rg3 and senior Baylor RG3 is one of the most accurate deep throw passers ive ever seen. Obviously he's not playing at that same level and his accuracy had gone to hell but maybe, just maybe that's because he's coming off a TORN ACL and a DESTROYED ankle. There's a chance that RG3 will never be back, but he deserves more than 1 year to get back at it.:what:. Fukk this Cac, hope he's fired immediately :camby:
 

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RGIII is the Jeremy Lin of football. Both put up great numbers and demonstrated high potential for a very short period of time (people love comparing Lin to Tebow because of religion, Tebow never demonstrated any kind of proficiency in the league). Yet ya'll were ready to feast on the bones of J.Lin's carcass the first bad game he had and throw him to the wolves, but after 2 years of shyttty performances we still making excuses for RGIII and blaming everyone else as racist.

Sounds like a double standard to me.


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:ohhh: I'm sorry. I don't remember Lin shytting on college competition for about 3 years, or winning National player of the year, or tearing his acl after leading the Knicks to the playoffs, or destroying his ankle the year after that. Maybe I'm missing something :skip:
 

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really, how often does it actually happen?

RG3 wasn't some fluke who came out of nowhere. He did it in college, he did it as a rookie. He's barely had any time as an NFL starter considering his injuries, so you throw him out this year coming off an injury, in a new offense with a coach who obviously already has an agenda, and he hasn't performed well.

I'm not saying he's gonna be elite, but to say he's worse than Colt fukking McCoy? Nah my nikka.

The dude is garbage, just slightly better than Geno. He has regressed badly in footwork, has tunnel vision in the pocket and is uncoachable.
 

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I hate the Skins.. but Gruden is a clown for how he puts all this in the media.

He's gotta be trying to get fired..and his wish should be granted..
 

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bull fukking shyt that he's worse than McCoy tho. McCoy is a scrub, dude was barely in the league as a 3rd stringer coming into this year. Now all of a sudden he's better than RG3?

RG3 ain't fall off that hard bruh. This coach is the one who is trash. Skins hired the wrong Gruden and this cac don't know what the fukk he doing.
The other Gruden aint do shyt in the league either except capitalize off of what Dungy left :mjpls:
 
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The ''defenses'' in this video :mjlol:

Those defenses were atrocious. Cowboys had the worse defense in the NFL that year, Eagles weren't too far behind

lol OK

what does that have to do with THROWING MECHANICS, and delivering the ball

about the Ravens, who went onto win the Superbowl that year lol

man yall are ridiculous
 

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RG3 is trash but at this point all this shyt talking seems to be well within shark jumping/beating a dead horse territory. We get it, you don't like your QB. But I have never seen a coach relentlessly shyt talk and belittle a QB like this. It's not even "tough love," it's just shyt talking.

At the end of the day RG3 is still on the team, there are 4 games to go, he will almost certainly end up playing in some of those games...what purpose does it serve to air this out?
 

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RGIII hasn't been good, but neither is gruden as a coach and the constant public put downs....like how do you keep this guy around? what type of FA's are going to want to play for him? skins bruhs, any insight onn how other players feel about gruden?
 

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Robert Griffin III: Inside the Numbers, Just How Good Was He in 2012?
By Dan Ciarrocchi @TheSackSBN on Feb 5 2013, 2:59p 133

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Just how good was Robert Griffin III this season? Dan Ciarrocchi examines this with the aid of Pro Football Focus' premium stats.

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No one can deny that Robert Griffin III had a rookie season for the ages. Every time his offense took the field, the threat of a quick strike in the form of a bomb or a gashing run took place.

And if you take away the eyeball test and look purely at his numbers, they support his greatness as well. Griffin III set rookie records in rushing yards and passer rating, while racking up 3,200 passing yards and 20 touchdowns to just five interceptions.

Sometimes, though, these numbers can be misleading. A high completion percentage is great, but there’s always a “but” when you look at it on the surface. “Quarterback X completed 66 percent of his passes, BUT he primarily throws low-risk passes, or BUT he doesn’t hit his receivers in stride for bigger gains, or BUT has Sure-Handed Receivers X, Y and Z to throw to.

I wouldn’t be doing my job if I didn’t ask myself “Is there a ‘but’ aspect to Robert Griffin III’s stellar numbers?” To find out, I consulted the premium data at Pro Football Focus because of course I did.

Since I touched on it earlier, let’s examine RGIII’s completion percentage of 65.6. PFF tracks pretty much every statistic for every game situation, which adds intelligence to superficial numbers.

One thing I found interesting was drop rate. Redskins receivers have dropped 8.9 percent of Griffin III’s passes thrown in their direction. Not only was that the highest percentage recorded this year, but the second-highest that PFF has recorded in its five-year existence (David Garrard, 9.0 percent, 2008). So for Griffin to still manage a completion percentage of over 65 percent when close to one out of every ten of his throws are dropped is pretty remarkable.

Let’s keep going with this. Say those dropped passes were caught. Let’s also take spikes and throwaways out of the equation, too. PFF keeps track of that as well and then calculates a new “accuracy percentage.” When you adjust the completion percentage to factor this in, Griffin III’s mark shifts to a whopping 79.6 percent. That number is tops in the league next to Aaron Rodgers’ 80.2 percent, and just above Peyton Manning’s 78.6 percent.

One of his biggest criticisms is that his efficiency numbers are inflated due to not taking shots downfield. And you know what? There is truth in that statement; RGIII doesn’t take many shots downfield. His 36 attempts of 20 yards or deeper is among the fewest in the league, and only 9.2 percent of his attempts fit that category. Only Christian Ponder has a lower percentage of those deep attempts.

But, when Griffin III does challenge defenders downfield, he’s been extremely effective. On balls thrown deep, he has an adjusted accuracy percentage of 50 percent, which is fifth in the NFL, and seven of his 36 deep attempts resulted in touchdowns. In other words, when RGIII threw it deep, 20 percent of the time it resulted in a touchdown. That’s not really a sustainable mark over time, but it’s astonishing that he pulled that off over the course of a full season nonetheless.

Under pressure, Griffin III again topped the league in adjusted accuracy, and was third in completion percentage.


With playaction, Griffin III averaged 11.8 yards per attempt, which topped the league. Just think about that for a second. Odds are, when RG3 threw after faking a handoff, it was going to result in a first down.


However, it’s worth noting that there was a discrepancy between his efficiency with playaction and regular dropbacks. He averaged about half his yards per attempt during traditional dropbacks (6.0), had a slight dip in completion percentage (64.1 compared to 67.7) as well as quarterback rating (93.4 from 116.2). These aren’t bad numbers, though, and are really more of a testament to how great he was when he threw after faking handoffs.

At the end of the day, no matter how you slice it, Griffin III had not just an incredible season for a rookie, but an incredible season for a quarterback. And if he holds true to his promise that people will see a better Robert Griffin III when he returns-- Watch. Out.

http://www.hogshaven.com/2013/2/5/3...side-the-numbers-just-how-good-was-he-in-2012

Yall mean to tell me you dont think injury and coaching change has 99% to do with Griffin's decline:what:? Eff outta here:stopitslime:. Homie is only 24 coming off of 2 major injuries. The redskins would be extremely foolish to cut ties with him after all they gave up for him And if they do trade him, its gonna be funny af seeing him at 26 years old back to 100% (mentally and physically) in another uniform, killing your squad.
 

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I don't think his assessment is wrong, but what coach has ever benefited from constantly throwing players under the bus? Whoever benefits long term from blaming their failings on everybody else?

This dude is unprofessional and should have learned from Singletary's "can't win with em" bullshyt. Maybe it's not "them" maybe it's "you"
 

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:sas2: They dont hear you though.

John Gruden? SB winning Coach. Builder of franchises

Mike Tomlin? Only can win with Cowher' s player....

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2002 - 12-4, won super bowl :ohhh:
2003 - 7-9, no playoffs :stopitslime:
2004 - 5-11, no playoffs :mjlol:
2005 - 11-5, first round exit :snoop:
2006 - 4-12, no playoffs :mjpls:
2007 - 9-7, first round exit :snoop:
2008 - 9-7, no playoffs :ufdup:

as far as Mr. Jay :scust:
 
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