Jay writing the new Magna Carter...or still a New Slave?

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i'm a jay-z fan....and i was a bit put off by that promo. he's basically riding the hard work of Ye, Cole, Wale and hell, even Mac Miller. He surfed that whole wave and rode it a week later so he can drop his own shyt by himself. yesterday afternoon i read that whole jay-z dikkrider thread and really had a good laugh....but when I saw the commercial it just i confirmed everything was reading earlier. i couldn't even really be excited because i was lowkey disgusted at the blatant dikkriding. and tbh that's the most extreme case of dikkriding i've ever seen an artist do. like c'mon hov'...you're just going to piggyback on all of their promo...then get a major corporation to dwarf any marketing anybody under you have...so you can outshine everyone? at this stage in the game he doesn't have to partner with samsung, but he did to reach the demographic he's out of touch with. as a fan, i'm annoyed. it's dikkriding to the highest degree possible. yeah....this shyt will be classic...a classic birthed in the clutches of the corporate infrastructure. this is what kanye was ranting about the whole time. the corporate machine...and watch jay-z just spit in his face with this samsung deal. i'm not saying the album won't sound great...i'm sure it will. it's the principal of how he's gone about it that makes it shady. jay has shown that he has lost his touch by this action alone. as a fan you have to recognize certain shyt. hov' could drop an album with no single or promo and it sell...but you know what? at 43, he doesn't have the courage to test his own crown. a fan base he's been building since the mid 90's he's afraid to test on it's own almost 2 decades later. at the end of the day Kanye get's the GOAT title because he had the courage to believe in his product more than he cares about the promo. Jay-Z is doing the exact opposite...not only does it make him a dikkrider, it makes him, still, a corporate slave...or as Ye' put it...a new slave.
 

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To an extent, you're right but this shyt is chess, not checkers. If you think about it, Jay has reasons to try to fukk over Cole and Kanye. Cole because that nikka has been dissin him for a minute and he's on the label, so you know Hov going to shoot some shots back on this album. I also don't think Kanye and Jay are that tight anymore, hence the reason Kanye called Suit & Tie garbage. Mac Miller ain't even in the equation...Plus, this has to be something Jay was planning for awhile because we all know it takes jay awhile to drop an album.
 

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To an extent, you're right but this shyt is chess, not checkers. If you think about it, Jay has reasons to try to fukk over Cole and Kanye. Cole because that nikka has been dissin him for a minute and he's on the label, so you know Hov going to shoot some shots back on this album. I also don't think Kanye and Jay are that tight anymore, hence the reason Kanye called Suit & Tie garbage. Mac Miller ain't even in the equation...Plus, this has to be something Jay was planning for awhile because we all know it takes jay awhile to drop an album.

So Jay being at his birthday party and Ye likely having a beat on this project is separation?
 

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To an extent, you're right but this shyt is chess, not checkers. If you think about it, Jay has reasons to try to fukk over Cole and Kanye. Cole because that nikka has been dissin him for a minute and he's on the label, so you know Hov going to shoot some shots back on this album. I also don't think Kanye and Jay are that tight anymore, hence the reason Kanye called Suit & Tie garbage. Mac Miller ain't even in the equation...Plus, this has to be something Jay was planning for awhile because we all know it takes jay awhile to drop an album.

Industry needs more of that, honestly. Like imagine if one of keef's best friends sat him down and was like like "Keefer, this shyt is trash"
 

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So Jay being at his birthday party and Ye likely having a beat on this project is separation?

Well, we don't KNOW if Kanye is on the new project and I haven't heard anything about a birthday party. But even so, people are usually still friends on the surface before the relationship totally breaks down. I'm speculating, but I wouldn't be surprised if this is the case.

Industry needs more of that, honestly. Like imagine if one of keef's best friends sat him down and was like like "Keefer, this shyt is trash"

True, but you know most people co-sign whatever their boys do, so it's kinda weird kanye would make a public statement like that, especially without jay taking any offense to it.
 

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Well, we don't KNOW if Kanye is on the new project and I haven't heard anything about a birthday party. But even so, people are usually still friends on the surface before the relationship totally breaks down. I'm speculating, but I wouldn't be surprised if this is the case.



True, but you know most people co-sign whatever their boys do, so it's kinda weird kanye would make a public statement like that, especially without jay taking any offense to it.

He was technically in the commercial just not shown.
 

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i'm a jay-z fan....and i was a bit put off by that promo. he's basically riding the hard work of Ye, Cole, Wale and hell, even Mac Miller. He surfed that whole wave and rode it a week later so he can drop his own shyt by himself. yesterday afternoon i read that whole jay-z dikkrider thread and really had a good laugh....but when I saw the commercial it just i confirmed everything was reading earlier. i couldn't even really be excited because i was lowkey disgusted at the blatant dikkriding. and tbh that's the most extreme case of dikkriding i've ever seen an artist do. like c'mon hov'...you're just going to piggyback on all of their promo...then get a major corporation to dwarf any marketing anybody under you have...so you can outshine everyone? at this stage in the game he doesn't have to partner with samsung, but he did to reach the demographic he's out of touch with. as a fan, i'm annoyed. it's dikkriding to the highest degree possible. yeah....this shyt will be classic...a classic birthed in the clutches of the corporate infrastructure. this is what kanye was ranting about the whole time. the corporate machine...and watch jay-z just spit in his face with this samsung deal. i'm not saying the album won't sound great...i'm sure it will. it's the principal of how he's gone about it that makes it shady. jay has shown that he has lost his touch by this action alone. as a fan you have to recognize certain shyt. hov' could drop an album with no single or promo and it sell...but you know what? at 43, he doesn't have the courage to test his own crown. a fan base he's been building since the mid 90's he's afraid to test on it's own almost 2 decades later. at the end of the day Kanye get's the GOAT title because he had the courage to believe in his product more than he cares about the promo. Jay-Z is doing the exact opposite...not only does it make him a dikkrider, it makes him, still, a corporate slave...or as Ye' put it...a new slave.

so we gonna give Kanye the Corporate killer title now? LLS

Public Enemy been did that and better...
 

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i agree, completely. just in principal with the OP. im not mad, i just see jay for what he's doing at this point.

funny thing is, im fairly sure, i'll like jay's album better. just because its summer, and the 2-4 cookout-party joints on there will get more frivilous burn. but, the thing that disgusted me was that they tried to mask that shyt like it was gonna be some forward art shyt and ruben cysing that "i just want a picasso," with the same cast of producers (minus just and...kanye) that have been around since he jay was wearing jerseys like its gonna be something new. HE IS GOING TO BRAG. aint nothing gonna be new about that.

the guy is an incredible snake oil salesman.

ironically enough, thats why im cheering so hard for him and CAA to snatch all these athletes with those same tactics from these old sports agent farts.
 
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